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  • chanz4
    chanz4 Posts: 11,057 Forumite
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    Fully agree with lemontart as this is how it stands, don't waste money on solicitor as its as straight forward as providing a tenancy. Also then opening an account in your name for the void period.

    Remember credit is not a right
    Don't put your trust into an Experian score - it is not a number any bank will ever use & it is generally a waste of money to purchase it. They are also selling you insurance you dont need.
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,060 Forumite
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    Agree with the above two posts, and it shouldn't be a problem to get rid of the debt.

    However your problem is still how to remove the pre-pay meters. As stated earlier professional people will not want such meters. It might mean you/tenant putting down a hefty returnable deposit.
  • Wywth
    Wywth Posts: 5,079 Forumite
    Cardew wrote: »
    The Utility companies have no idea if the occupant is an owner or tenant.

    The problem is that there is a 'breed' of tenant who move from property to property leaving behind a trail of debts - rent, water, gas, Council Tax and there is little that can be done to stop them; they can play the system for months and then flit.

    And there is a 'breed' of landlord that allow them ;)
  • Wywth
    Wywth Posts: 5,079 Forumite
    Teslagirl wrote: »
    The thing is, if you're trying to attract professionals, those people just won't tolerate card meters, which are seen as downmarket.

    The house was obviously empty when they broke in and it had just been decorated. You would think this would have given them pause for thought. With not much research they could have discovered the legal owner (me) and my address (two doors away).

    This woman had been evicted owning me £2500 and all the court costs. A simple check would have shown she had been evicted after a court order.

    It's the lack of care which annoys me. It seems to me that EDF made insufficient attempts to uncover the true situation. So having been taken for a ride by the tenant, EDF are doing their best to make it worse.

    Ironically I couldn't touch the house during the year-long eviction process, even though I legally owned it. But EDF can just break in on the basis of very little research. The power they have relative to that of the landlord is staggering.

    Very annoyed now... Anyone know of a good property solicitor?

    Incidentally, I only have the one buy-to-let; in effect it is my pension. I am not a rich landlord.

    If you'd successfully evicted the last tenants (and there was no immediate tenant to replace them) you should have contacted the supplier on eviction day, provided a meter reading, and put the supply into your name.

    If you had done that, all this could have been avoided. ;)
  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    Agreed: if the errant ex-tenant hadn't paid their rent, then it's hardly surprising that they hadn't paid their utility bills either.
    Expect to find the same thing with the water utility, council tax, phone company etc.
    EDF didn't 'break in'. They obtained a legal right to force entry.
    You could have traced the suppliers by the normal means used when bills are not available.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • ic
    ic Posts: 3,430 Forumite
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    Teslagirl wrote: »
    The problem was that I didn't know who the utility companies were as she had arranged her own,

    Ring the local distributors and ask them.

    Gas: 0870 608 1524

    Electric:

    Scotland North 0845 0262 554
    Scotland South 0845 270 9101
    North East England 0845 601 3268
    North West England 0870 751 0093
    Eastern England 0870 196 3082
    Southern England 0845 0262 554
    South West England 0845 601 2989
    South East England 0845 601 5467
    London 0845 601 5467
    Yorkshire 0845 330 0889
    Merseyside and North Wales 0845 270 9101
    South Wales 01752 502 299
    West Midlands 0845 603 0618
    East Midlands 0845 603 0618
    and as I'm not allowed to open her mail in law, I had no way to find out who they were.

    What nonsense, so this person has taken you to hell and back, then done a runner - like they care about their post that they've abandoned? I always open post that turns up addressed to my property - its interesting, and I can't be arsed going through the rigmarole of writing "not known at address, return to sender" then taking it to the post box - why should I? Nobody ever says thanks.
  • Beckyy
    Beckyy Posts: 2,833 Forumite
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    On a side note my BTL has a prepayment meter fitted, and it didnt put off the (professional) tenant at all. They're a few pence more per kWh but it's hardly enough to put somebody off a house if they like it IMO.
  • chanz4
    chanz4 Posts: 11,057 Forumite
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    The last tenant wasn't very good, so whats the grade?
    Don't put your trust into an Experian score - it is not a number any bank will ever use & it is generally a waste of money to purchase it. They are also selling you insurance you dont need.
  • lstar337
    lstar337 Posts: 3,443 Forumite
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    Beckyy wrote: »
    On a side note my BTL has a prepayment meter fitted, and it didnt put off the (professional) tenant at all. They're a few pence more per kWh but it's hardly enough to put somebody off a house if they like it IMO.
    Actually, since they are just standard tariff, you don't really get charged any more, you just don't have access to discounts you might get on another tariff.

    PP doesn't really put me off. Most people think of the hassle of running back and forth from PayPoint stores, but you can just as easily put enough on to cover a whole month if you wish, or even 6 months.
  • Wywth wrote: »
    And there is a 'breed' of landlord that allow them ;)
    LAs and housing associations?
    I do hope you're not referring to the OP!
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