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Hubby on jsa does he HAVE to do learn direct courses?

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So hubby on jsa for the last 3 months and had to attend a special session at the job center about courses.
He needs to do a forklift course as his license has run out and it's v beneficial in applying for jobs.

Today he has attended a learn direct introduction session which lasts all day and he's doing tests to score his maths,English etc.

It's a good 12 miles aŵay and he's having to pay over £3 for parking.

He found out he has to do a maths English or it course before being allowed to do a forklift course.

Some of these courses are 5/6/7 days and are about 20 miles drive each way.

Does he HAVE to do these course to keep claiming his jsa?

The wear and tear on the car,petrol and parking costs is making it much less attractive now,
He has gcse's in English and maths and has no interest in improving the grades.

And to be honest to an employer a valid forklift licence and experience is much more desirable then an a* in English!
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  • princessdon
    princessdon Posts: 6,902 Forumite
    In all honesty it's kind of political - it's to do with progressive funding and it's easier to use the functional skills progress route to fund things like the forklift course than apply for finding direct.

    It's also a good refresher and keeps the brain cells active but is ask for travel costs as many do pay them
  • krok
    krok Posts: 358 Forumite
    Tell him to take the bus. He will be refunded his fare and there will be no wear and tear on his car.

    To get free course he will have to get his maths and english qualification.

    I got a cscs card the same way.
  • tonycottee
    tonycottee Posts: 1,332 Forumite
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    What grades did he get for Maths and English?
  • tokenfield
    tokenfield Posts: 257 Forumite
    So hubby on jsa for the last 3 months and had to attend a special session at the job center about courses.
    He needs to do a forklift course as his license has run out and it's v beneficial in applying for jobs.

    Today he has attended a learn direct introduction session which lasts all day and he's doing tests to score his maths,English etc.

    It's a good 12 miles aŵay and he's having to pay over £3 for parking.

    He found out he has to do a maths English or it course before being allowed to do a forklift course.

    Some of these courses are 5/6/7 days and are about 20 miles drive each way.

    Does he HAVE to do these course to keep claiming his jsa?

    The wear and tear on the car,petrol and parking costs is making it much less attractive now,
    He has gcse's in English and maths and has no interest in improving the grades.

    And to be honest to an employer a valid forklift licence and experience is much more desirable then an a* in English!

    It would seem so.

    A single young solicitor friend (32) of the family decided that the money would be far better as an employee in Central London, than dealing with wills for OAP's in his one man practice.
    He closed the business down and signed on claiming JSA whilst waiting for the right opportunity to come up (which it did some months later). He was told all sorts that he must do, one was attending a course in helping him to complete a CV (as if he needed it - he has a 1st in English as well as Law).
  • GwylimT
    GwylimT Posts: 6,530 Forumite
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    When I was on JSA I had to attend a course concerning CV writing, presenting yourself for an interview etc and then I had to do a work based course, in my case they had me do a retail course, I however only had to attend for one session at the start and an end session to take an exam. I was required to complete these to carry on my JSA claim.
  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 12,994 Forumite
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    tokenfield wrote: »
    It would seem so.

    A single young solicitor friend (32) of the family decided that the money would be far better as an employee in Central London, than dealing with wills for OAP's in his one man practice.
    He closed the business down and signed on claiming JSA whilst waiting for the right opportunity to come up (which it did some months later). He was told all sorts that he must do, one was attending a course in helping him to complete a CV (as if he needed it - he has a 1st in English as well as Law).

    if hed done the sensible thing and lined the next job up before shutting his vusiness, then he wouldnt have had to do anything would he?

    intelligent enough to qualify as a lawyer, but not smart enough make sure he already had a job to go to ....
  • Who?_me?
    Who?_me? Posts: 206 Forumite
    tokenfield wrote: »
    It would seem so.

    , one was attending a course in helping him to complete a CV (as if he needed it - he has a 1st in English as well as Law).

    Just because he has a first in english, doesn't mean to say he can write an excellent CV, a CV that the employers will look at for more than 30seconds. In my courses (I deliver these dreaded CV courses) I have a cartoon of someone saying "I don't understand, I have all the qualifications but didn't get the job", because they don't have the employablity skills or be able to put together a CV that the employer is going to read. If you see on UJM, there is no room for a coveing letter, so your CV has to include a personal profile section, which will make up for the lack of letter. Its amazing how many don't have this on, or change it to suit the job.
    I have had people on my courses who have excellent qualifications - and their CV lists all of these but says nothing that is relevant to the job they are looking for and how their skills fit. There is no such thing as a perfect cv, but someone else to look at your CV who doesn't know you is a worth while excersise. At the end of the day, if they do have a suitable CV (and many do) when they come on the course, they can help the tutor / others on the course to do their letters and CVs, which they can put on their CV!
  • tokenfield
    tokenfield Posts: 257 Forumite
    nannytone wrote: »
    if hed done the sensible thing and lined the next job up before shutting his vusiness, then he wouldnt have had to do anything would he?

    intelligent enough to qualify as a lawyer, but not smart enough make sure he already had a job to go to ....

    Why, he was in no hurry to find any job.
  • tokenfield
    tokenfield Posts: 257 Forumite
    edited 6 August 2013 at 8:38PM
    Who?_me? wrote: »
    Just because he has a first in english, doesn't mean to say he can write an excellent CV, a CV that the employers will look at for more than 30seconds. In my courses (I deliver these dreaded CV courses) I have a cartoon of someone saying "I don't understand, I have all the qualifications but didn't get the job", because they don't have the employablity skills or be able to put together a CV that the employer is going to read. If you see on UJM, there is no room for a coveing letter, so your CV has to include a personal profile section, which will make up for the lack of letter. Its amazing how many don't have this on, or change it to suit the job.
    I have had people on my courses who have excellent qualifications - and their CV lists all of these but says nothing that is relevant to the job they are looking for and how their skills fit. There is no such thing as a perfect cv, but someone else to look at your CV who doesn't know you is a worth while excersise. At the end of the day, if they do have a suitable CV (and many do) when they come on the course, they can help the tutor / others on the course to do their letters and CVs, which they can put on their CV!

    I'm sure that you offer a fantastic service but, not one that could help him.

    He didn't need any 'training' or help 'preparing a CV' - he was only interested in receiving a few quid a week until the right job popped up.

    He was registered with two professional agencies, and both fought to find him the job that fitted exactly what he wanted.
    Eventually one turned up that he couldn't turn down.

    I doubt very much that your 'help' would have achieved the same result.

    Looking at the JC website, if I was 20 years younger and looking for a job, I would be starting to draw my State Pension if I had to rely on yours and the JC's expertise in finding a job for me that fitted all of my requirements.
    Surprisingly, two private agencies that I recently looked at out of interest have many openings that would suit me down to the ground.

    I think that it is better for the professionals to get involved - don't you?
  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 12,994 Forumite
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    tokenfield wrote: »
    Why, he was in no hurry to find any job.

    so if he didnt need the money... why sign on and have to do as he was told?
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