Is living in countryside (Villages in UK) racist

moneyistooshorttomention

deejaybee wrote: »

We moved from Brum to the South Hams In Devon a few years ago.... wish I had done it many years before.

We are both working and contributing to the local economy, and our daughter is happy at the primary school..

Fantastic place to live & work, great community spirit, very low crime rates.

Everytime I go back up to Brum to visit family it seems to have gone down the pan a bit more

I often joke with people that I have moved back to England... hopefully I have 20-30 yrs before the minarets start appearing even in places like this, but I worry what my kids & grandkids are going to have to live with...

DEmographics mean the UK is heading the way of the former Yugoslavia

Beg, steal or borrow a copy of " America Alone" by Mark Steyn, read it and you will laugh out load because he is a very humourous writer, but the underlying message is alarming.

Watch it...any minute now you'll be called racist:rotfl:. Though I can see you aren't at all. More likely my agegroup and puzzled by why some people don't seem to want to integrate...as its very obvious that if someone moves to another country then the next thing they do is to try and integrate (adopt customs/learn language fluently/etc) and not try and live in a bubble or a "half way house position". I was being helpful earlier in the thread pointing out that people need to speak the language of the country they are in fluently in order to fully integrate.

Like me...you may be "old-fashioned" (not speaking in the "tiptoe round on eggshells" way of speaking that is currently fashionable), but you certainly aren't "racist".:rotfl:

Davesnave

deejaybee wrote: »

We moved from Brum to the South Hams In Devon a few years ago.... wish I had done it many years before.

We are both working and contributing to the local economy, and our daughter is happy at the primary school..

Fantastic place to live & work, great community spirit, very low crime rates.

Yes, I live here too and it's lovely.

However, my daughter lives in Brum, and she isn't planning on coming back here anytime soon. My other daughter isn't settled yet, but she too lives elsewhere, in a city.

You see, lovely though it is, Devon is expensive and a tad old-style. In places like the South Hams there are limited job opportunities. It's an economy based largely on tourism and farming, and it's not one that could sustain the country.

Modern mobility, especially during student years, means that young people meet and choose partners from elsewhere, who may indeed not be white. So, whatever you have chosen for yourself, remember that your kids will probably choose differently too!

deejaybee

Hands up ! I'll admit it !

I AM A WHITE - FLIGHT-IST :j

Agree the point about lack of job opportunities for the young 'uns down here, tough for them to get on the property ladder as well with the prevalence of second homes that make some places down here resemble Chelsea-on-sea..

There is work if you look for it though, I am S/E and my mrs has done a few jobs, but is settled in one now that is very local..

Our grown-kids are scattered around big cities, and probably have a different outlook to us in some ways, cant see the female ones ever (willingly) wearing something that resembles a black post box though..

Fadileeds

gazter wrote: »

Some people just dont like other sorts of people. Often for good reasons, often for bad reasons.

I have learnt so much from different countries and different cultures and keep learning everyday. I do understand why people dont like other people so many reasons and i have seen so many people just dont like to accept or willing to know the other people just because of the color of skin. As i was the same when i was 13 years old when i was living in Jordan we never seen black person. We were so afraid to talk to him in the school. That was the mistakes of that country and their culture and parents dont teach their kids to accept and learn from everyone. Now i have more friends with dark skin :-).

moneyistooshorttomention

I must admit that, if I lived in some areas of our bigger cities, that I would worry that I might land up in blazing rows and physical assaults just from being a woman walking round in normal British clothing and acting like a normal British person. If anyone tried to do anything to stop me doing so, then there would be the blazing rows and defending my right to live our way and I would hit back if I were assaulted and expect the police to be on my side if I had to report the incident.

It was worrying to read a recent newspaper article about two men doing a charity walk in mankinis getting attacked for wearing this get-up as they walked through one area of Birmingham. Mankinis are positively "Yuck...what ARE they wearing?" in my book...but if you don't like it then just turn away quick and don't look at them (as its everyones right to dress as they please..provided they are recognisable and non-offensive in British eyes).

I do worry that being told to speak in that fashionable "walk on eggshells" sort of way I notice a lot in younger people is the start of a slippery slope to try and stop us leading our own way of life in our own country and am getting rather fed-up with saying "I don't care if you're a Martian even...provided you integrate".

TopQuark

MrsE wrote: »

I agree, the more working class an area, the more likely to suffer racism.
People availing of the public purse (benefits) tend to stress that foreigners are taking their entitlements.
I live in a Surrey village, I doubt the OP would experience racism here.

You are confusing working class people with the very small minority of people who have never worked and are habitual state benefit recipients. The two are entirely different. Coming from a working class area of Birmingham, I can say anecdotally that there appears no more or less racism there than in a more middle class area of the region.

My fiance (who is French), was the recipient of some rude and racist/prejudiced remarks when we were in a home counties village however.

We now live in a little village on lake Geneva in Switzerland (where Michael Schumacher also 'lives') and receive a mixed reception as we are two of many foreigners in the region (Switzerland has the highest % of immigrants anywhere in Europe). Although I reckon Michael probably gets a better reception as an immigrant than we do!

TopQuark

deejaybee wrote: »

Hands up ! I'll admit it !

I AM A WHITE - FLIGHT-IST :j

Agree the point about lack of job opportunities for the young 'uns down here, tough for them to get on the property ladder as well with the prevalence of second homes that make some places down here resemble Chelsea-on-sea..

There is work if you look for it though, I am S/E and my mrs has done a few jobs, but is settled in one now that is very local..

Our grown-kids are scattered around big cities, and probably have a different outlook to us in some ways, cant see the female ones ever (willingly) wearing something that resembles a black post box though..

I'm certain that they probably do. I'm a 'grown-kid' and have just passed 30. I left Brum a few years ago to move abroad for my work and have since lived in several countries in the far east and Europe. Otherwise I'd still be there, as many of my friends are.

And I must say that I'd much rather live in a diverse community such as Birmingham than some stuck-up little southern place full of snobs and curtain-twitchers (not suggesting that your particular place is like that BTW). But that's just me!

Fadileeds

MrsE wrote: »

I agree, the more working class an area, the more likely to suffer racism.
People availing of the public purse (benefits) tend to stress that foreigners are taking their entitlements.
I live in a Surrey village, I doubt the OP would experience racism here.

Depends really i dont know any foreigner that claim benefits. But i totally agree with you but they are not just foreigner. I worked in food shop part time as my first job while i was doing my master degree in UK. I was talking to people come and buy in the shop was shocking they love to claim and even teach their kids to be the damn the same and they are proud when they find cash hand job and they claim. I never cared about money but i cared about learning to find the job i really like to do. I used earn about £130 a week in this job as my first job. I have seen some many negative people asking me to quit and claim and you will get more from the government and find cash hand job and you will earn more and no tax no headache. I told them i studied all my life to quit. i do not want to say how much i earn now :-) but is abut is more than 10 times what i used get in my first job but i still dont care about the money :-) just keep spending on my little girl :-)

Strapped

deejaybee wrote: »

Hands up ! I'll admit it !

I AM A WHITE - FLIGHT-IST :j

Yeah, that's one of the few things I don't like about living in the South Hams - full of people like you.

hunters

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Watch it...any minute now you'll be called racist:rotfl:. Though I can see you aren't at all. More likely my agegroup and puzzled by why some people don't seem to want to integrate...as its very obvious that if someone moves to another country then the next thing they do is to try and integrate (adopt customs/learn language fluently/etc) and not try and live in a bubble or a "half way house position". I was being helpful earlier in the thread pointing out that people need to speak the language of the country they are in fluently in order to fully integrate.

Like me...you may be "old-fashioned" (not speaking in the "tiptoe round on eggshells" way of speaking that is currently fashionable), but you certainly aren't "racist".:rotfl:

like this supposedly "British" custom you thought up from somewhere?

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Bad enough in my house - where the neighbour behind can open a bedroom window and have a conversation with me in my back yard if they want to (well the lodger tried to once - and got a very "British" reaction back of "I cant see you/I cant hear you if I'm in my back garden (aka back yard)" whilst I thought "They'll learn our ways if they're in this country long enough....I expect no-one has explained to them yet that back gardens are private (even if they arent)". I wasnt going to stand and explain British customs to them at that point - I was too annoyed that they hadnt learn that convention yet...

Thank goodness I live nowhere near your part of little Britain, call yourself old fashioned, nope