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Is living in countryside (Villages in UK) racist

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  • Fadileeds
    Fadileeds Posts: 26 Forumite
    Is it at all possible to keep yourself to yourself in a village?

    I mean, do what all those rich city folk do with their 2nd homes.

    Good question as this what i did in Dewsbury when i moved in.
  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 36,193 Forumite
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    Fadileeds wrote: »
    Thanks for your reply. I have been working in Leeds for 14 years now since i cam to UK after i graduated. Do you think shall i go for it or stay in the towns :-)

    BIW is hardly a village; certainly a small town.

    I certainly would not recommend that people with dark skins (regardless of nationality) try to move into some areas of Leeds; there was an appalling incident when a family's housewarming party was broken up by a horde of neighbours armed with all sorts last summer or the year before. They had only moved into the social housing very recently and the locals objected to their ethnic origin. No one had bothered to warn the family about the area.

    On the otherhand most of the city welcomes people of all sorts of ethnic backgrounds and nationalities.

    Go, make friends with the neighbours and no one will care about your nationality.

    What you may find is that you are treated as incomers in small communities; this will happen regardless of your background and even after years you may be reminded that "he's only been here 10/20/30 years."
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  • Fadileeds
    Fadileeds Posts: 26 Forumite
    RAS wrote: »
    BIW is hardly a village; certainly a small town.

    I certainly would not recommend that people with dark skins (regardless of nationality) try to move into some areas of Leeds; there was an appalling incident when a family's housewarming party was broken up by a horde of neighbours armed with all sorts last summer or the year before. They had only moved into the social housing very recently and the locals objected to their ethnic origin. No one had bothered to warn the family about the area.

    On the otherhand most of the city welcomes people of all sorts of ethnic backgrounds and nationalities.

    Go, make friends with the neighbours and no one will care about your nationality.

    What you may find is that you are treated as incomers in small communities; this will happen regardless of your background and even after years you may be reminded that "he's only been here 10/20/30 years."

    Thanks is this incident in BIW? I am not dark skin but just got tanned as i just returned from 15 days holiday from Spain where my brother lives :-)
  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 5 August 2013 at 3:57PM
    jamie11 wrote: »
    If you're going to live in a village.........learn how to play cricket.

    Or at least how to talk about it........you'll fit right in.

    Well that's certainly one way.:rotfl:

    The thing that strikes me is that you have been here 14 years and your English still isn't fluent. This is THE single biggest thing that will help you "fit in" to any community.

    My own parents had distinct reservations about "furriners" moving in next door but, over time, have come to accept them and I think one of the biggest single things that helped contribute to this is that they are making the effort to learn to speak English fluently. I think the point they got accepted was when one of my parents commented approvingly on "He's reading such and such a book (ie one that uses words that are too long for many English people to be able to read)". At that point it was obvious that the neighbours were trying to fit in, ie because they are trying to learn to speak English to an "educated English person standard" rather than the "basic level" English standard that is the best that can be expected from many English people themselves:rotfl:(ie the neighbours are trying to learn to speak to "Guardian" newspaper readers, rather than just "Sun" readers iyswim).
  • Fadileeds
    Fadileeds Posts: 26 Forumite
    edited 5 August 2013 at 4:07PM
    Well that's certainly one way.:rotfl:

    The thing that strikes me is that you have been here 14 years and your English still isn't fluent. This is THE single biggest thing that will help you "fit in" to any community.

    My own parents had distinct reservations about "furriners" moving in next door but, over time, have come to accept them and I think one of the biggest single things that helped contribute to this is that they are making the effort to learn to speak English fluently. I think the point they got accepted was when one of my parents commented approvingly on "He's reading such and such a book (ie one that uses words that are too long for many English people to be able to read)". At that point it was obvious that the neighbours were trying to fit in, ie because they are trying to learn to speak English to an "educated English person standard" rather than the "basic level" English standard that is the best that can be expected from many English people themselves:rotfl:(ie the neighbours are trying to learn to speak to "Guardian" newspaper readers, rather than just "Sun" readers iyswim).

    So you judge people skills from few words. Well i have 2 masters degrees and one of them from UK. and i can speak 4 languages too. Standard person can speak one language which i guess is you.
  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 5 August 2013 at 4:12PM
    You've been here 14 years.

    You asked for our opinion and many of us with University level intelligence may not have the paper qualifications to match our intelligence level...so degrees or no degrees...that is totally irrelevant.

    In any country people will need to speak the language fluently in order to fit in.

    I am well aware that I will need to learn the "local idioms" in the area I am moving to in order to get fully accepted there....even though I AM English.

    Fair 'nuff....it's up to me to learn said local idioms...and learn them I will.:)
  • Fadileeds
    Fadileeds Posts: 26 Forumite
    You asked for our opinion.

    In any country people will need to speak the language fluently in order to fit in.

    I am well aware that I will need to learn the "local idioms" in the area I am moving to in order to get fully accepted there....even though I AM English.

    Fair 'nuff....it's up to me to learn said local idioms...and learn them I will.:)

    To be honest. I have lived in about 8 countries before i came to UK. and my parent live in Village in USA and they never had such issues or needed to learn anything new from what they know.

    I would like to learn and get new degrees every chance i have in life than just learn one thing all my life.
  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 5 August 2013 at 4:18PM
    Suit yourself....and I think you have just answered your own thread question...

    Most people simply don't care what qualifications anyone has...we just want to know if someone will try and fit in...judging by what you've said then I think many will wonder if you will try...
  • yes you it is certianly possible that there's a lot of racism in some country areas. It's also possible the people might be a touch more relaxed and willing to accept new comers. This is all very general but if you make yourself a known entity in town, who shows their face at important social events and is talkative and confident, it's really hard for racism to stick in this day and age. most people won't lump it
  • BitterAndTwisted
    BitterAndTwisted Posts: 22,492 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    In some very small places people can tend to be a bit insular but that does not mean they are racist, just wary of outsiders. The insularity can affect those of UK origin who move from "elsewhere". The best thing to do is to involve yourselves in the local community, and I doubt this would really be avoidable once you have a young child in the local school.
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