Help with PE County Court Claim Form

HO87

Traindriver4 wrote: »

Reading through these threads, I get the feeling that if your identity is revealed or becomes apparent, then your case against the PPC becomes weaker. Why? It doesn't change the original facts.

That's certainly the way PPC's wish it was. Sadly for them the fact remains that you may chose any source of advice whether that be the highest paid barrister in the land or the lowest paid barista. The PPC's have been doing battle with this forum and others for the last 6 years to my knowledge and have attempted at every remove to ridicule and denigrate the advice given. Well, its in their interests to deflect away as much attention as possible from the solidity or otherwise of their own case and their efforts have been so successful that we are still here.

As for the need for discretion whilst posting why on earth would anyone want to make the lives of those suing them any easier? Whilst some cases are dealt with in the full glare of the forum many more are dealt with off-forum. That having been said the PPC's will be well aware of the source of the defences being provided.

Traindriver4 wrote: »

Secondly, in a few court hearings (and also when PPC responds to a defence), the PPC have used the fact that the defendants have obtained advice from forums and have almost copied their defence word for word. Again, I cannot understand why is this to the advantage of the PPC?

See my post above.

spacey2012

Basic intimidation .
Given that these forums have cost parking scammers millions of pounds in lost revenue the PPC has no choice but to hope they can threaten you away from seeking advice that makes them lose the court case.
Also as I always advise building in a question of right of Audience, they really do have to sit down and decide who they are sending to court that will get passed the judge when they pull it.
As they can only claim £50, they will lose lots of lovely money once they work out sending someone "acting on instruction of a solicitor" will usually see them thrown out.

Guys_Dad

Should anyone have the misfortune to be in court against a PPC barrister and they decide to use this put down or even if their bundle contains disparaging remarks about forum, the answer is simple.

"As the judge can see, the multi-million pound parking company has the wherewithal from the unfair charges which I am disputing to hire an expensive barrister. I, as a mere member of the public, do not have these resources and used the free resources available to me over the internet. Now the PPC's legal team seek even to deny me this source of advice"

Traindriver4

I have been given a Directions Hearing date - 20 mins allocated at my local court. Any help tips on what to take with me there.
There isn't a lot in these threads about this?

Guys_Dad

Traindriver4 wrote: »

I have been given a Directions Hearing date - 20 mins allocated at my local court. Any help tips on what to take with me there.
There isn't a lot in these threads about this?

Not a lot in your post for us to help either, I am afraid.

zzzLazyDaisy

Is this the PE charge that you have posted about before? If so, you have several different threads running about the same charge. You need to PM crabman and ask him to merge your threads because we need to know what has happened up to now, in order to help you.

Guys_Dad

Following on from Daisy.'s post, I didn't think to look at other threads.

Can I suggest you take a copy of the letter linked here https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/63687448#Comment_63687448 on post #52.

In court judges don't always accept GPEOL. However if you take a copy of a PE letter where they actually specify their costs as £53 then this could blow a hole in their claim that £100 is a genuine pre estimate.

Dont let them argue that the £100 is a contractual amount though.

bargepole

Traindriver4 wrote: »

I have been given a Directions Hearing date - 20 mins allocated at my local court. Any help tips on what to take with me there.
There isn't a lot in these threads about this?

A Directions Hearing, which is quite unusual in a small claims case, is for the Judge to speak to both parties and confirm which documents, witness statements, etc., need to be served ahead of the main hearing. Also he will establish whether any witnesses need to be called.

That's why it's only listed for 20 minutes.

Traindriver4

zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »

Is this the PE charge that you have posted about before? If so, you have several different threads running about the same charge. You need to PM crabman and ask him to merge your threads because we need to know what has happened up to now, in order to help you.

I have sent a request to crabman. My case is a typical overstay. Defence submitted using well rehearsed arguments. I have googled Directions Hearing to try to understand what its all about. Does the PPN pay to have this hearing and what is overall impact of these costs on the claim as a whole. If I win, am I able to add this hearing towards costs etc.
Do I need to take my defence bundle with me - and what should this include? Thanks.

Traindriver4

bargepole wrote: »

A Directions Hearing, which is quite unusual in a small claims case, is for the Judge to speak to both parties and confirm which documents, witness statements, etc., need to be served ahead of the main hearing. Also he will establish whether any witnesses need to be called.

That's why it's only listed for 20 minutes.

Thank you very much. Mine is a typical overstay case. There are no witnesses for me to call, so its just correspondence between us I will take with me. In my defence I quoted lots of courts cases/judgements, do I need the transcripts for these as well. I will need to prepare a court bundle, so any help in what is required for that would be helpful.