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Media criticism of Help To Buy becoming more balanced. (and admits there's no bubble)
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where does the land come from for more council housing?0
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Same place land comes for any building. Where I am the Government are selling off lots of land for building if they use it for council house they will obviously lose the money paid for that land.
We have a shortage of land with planning permission in places where we need housing.
It would seem to me that if the state is sitting on suitable land then that is a national scandal.
If you are proposing the state steals other peoples property then I think that's inappropriate.
If there is land but the state is with holding planning permission then again that's a scandal.
Our priory requirement is to build more properties rather than the state should do it.0 -
Our priory requirement is to build more properties rather than the state should do it.
Housebuildersand developers have not met the need through private/BTL/mortgaged construction in the past why should they in the future?
2 million households are on council waiting lists (apparenetly). As the population grows no doubt demand for both private and social housing increases.
Haven't you said previously that you want LHA to designate land for development so owners can then be taxed on it. Whilst land shouldn't be be stolen what difference is there between an enforced purchase at a fair price or taxing something that has been classed as development land which they may not want to sell.
If national land is sold off for a profit only to be recycled through HB further down the line seems another sell the silver, put it on the plastic short term plan - again. I agree that such suitable land shouldn't be excluded from development in the hope of future gain."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
Same place land comes for any building. Where I am the Government are selling off lots of land for building if they use it for council house they will obviously lose the money paid for that land.
Goes into one side of the government and out the other in HB payments, tactical fixes when some strategic joined upp thinking is required. Cut out the middlemen."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
Same place land comes for any building. Where I am the Government are selling off lots of land for building if they use it for council house they will obviously lose the money paid for that land.
Goes into one side of the government and out the other in HB payments, tactical fixes when some strategic joined up thinking is required. Cut out the middlemen.
Other sectors aren't bailed out to the same extent."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »Housebuildersand developers have not met the need through private/BTL/mortgaged construction in the past why should they in the future?
I don't believe that there is a storage of builders: if there was the effective demand then they would build sufficient houses.
If there was money to be made then people would fill that void as the skills to build houses are readily available.
However, government taxes, artificial land shortage and controls on mortgage lending have made buying new houses unattractive.
2 million households are on council waiting lists (apparenetly). As the population grows no doubt demand for both private and social housing increases.
A waiting list is totally meaningless: it costs nothing to join a waiting list and nothing to stay on it and so it says nothing about houses NEEDS only about WANTS.
Haven't you said previously that you want LHA to designate land for development so owners can then be taxed on it. Whilst land shouldn't be be stolen what difference is there between an enforced purchase at a fair price or taxing something that has been classed as development land which they may not want to sell.
I am indeed in favour of a land value tax as I think it would encourage a better use of land.
Unless you think ALL taxes are theft then maybe you could explain specifically why you are against a LVT of say 0.5% - 1% per annum. (what's your council tax expressed as a percentage of the property value?)
If national land is sold off for a profit only to be recycled through HB further down the line seems another sell the silver, put it on the plastic short term plan - again. I agree that such suitable land shouldn't be excluded from development in the hope of future gain.
I would personally be very surprised in 100% of new houses became available for rent; I would further be amazed if those rents were 100% funded by housing benefit.
Why would you assume such an amazing thing?
Why are you so against new house building?0 -
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