Citroen C5 woes

albionrovers

OddballJamie wrote: »

You sold it knowingly faulty, this could have been proved by asking the dealer to provide details of previous work undertaken.
From AA website
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/car-buyers-guide/cbg_legalrights.html

The only legal terms that cover a private sale contract are:

• the seller must have the right to sell the car
• the vehicle should match the description given by the seller
• the car must be roadworthy - it is a criminal offence to sell an unroadworthy car and an MOT certificate from a test several months ago is no guarantee that the car is roadworthy today.

I haven't seen your advert and wasn't witness to your sales patter, but if you told them it was a good runner or the like then they could have a claim against you.

Personally I wouldn't sell a car that I know to be faulty from my house privately, there's just too many nutters out there.

I did no such thing. The car was fixed by the Renault dealer (for the umpteenth time) the week I sold it and the light came on the day after the private sale was completed. I would argue Renault is the fraudster by building the things in the first place.

CKhalvashi

geordiepaul2001 wrote: »

I have made contact with a member on here with a Lexia

I have a friend who is a mechanic and he has a generic machine that reads realtime data and fault codes.
According to this the Diesel particulate filter was at 148%.
The car cut out a couple of times whilst idling and the fault shown was an injection relay fault.

I am still none the wiser.

I've spoken to the driver, and tt's Torque Pro. There was an app for Android/iPhone, and also the head on Amazon for a fiver last week, he mentioned.

CK

OddballJamie

albionrovers wrote: »

I did no such thing. The car was fixed by the Renault dealer (for the umpteenth time) the week I sold it and the light came on the day after the private sale was completed. I would argue Renault is the fraudster by building the things in the first place.

I got the impression you sold it faulty and screwed the buyer from your earlier post.

albionrovers wrote: »

My old Megane kept going into limp mode, Renault couldn't fix it, they had it in on average 3 times a week under warranty. It went into limp mode the day after I sold it but I hung up on the caller, private sale.

albionrovers

OddballJamie wrote: »

I got the impression you sold it faulty and screwed the buyer from your earlier post.

Point I was trying to make was that Renault happily told me it was fixed every time I left their yard. I then happily passed this information onto the buyer who knew pretty much as much about buying cars as I know about selling them. Economical with the truth then? Maybe just a little but Renault started it.

smashingyour...

albionrovers wrote: »

Point I was trying to make was that Renault happily told me it was fixed every time I left their yard. I then happily passed this information onto the buyer who knew pretty much as much about buying cars as I know about selling them. Economical with the truth then? Maybe just a little but Renault started it.

That's ok then, Renault lie to you so it's ok to knowingly sell a faculty car.

albionrovers

smashingyour... wrote: »

That's ok then, Renault lie to you so it's ok to knowingly sell a faculty car.

It wasn't faulty. It was fine with no lights on and not in limp mode. Another dude with a crystal ball.

ballyblack

What happened to sold as seen as per my receipt?

if the buyer wanted a warranty/comeback from the seller he/she should have purchased from a car trader. Not a private seller!!

CKhalvashi

ballyblack wrote: »

if the buyer wanted a warranty/comeback from the seller he/she should have purchased from a car trader. Not a private seller!!

Yup!

We sell all of our ex-fleet stuff ourselves, and it needs to be assessed on a 'what's reasonable' point of view.

If I don't feel that a car will last a lot longer (as in it has 180k+ miles on it), then it will be sold as unroadworthy, to err on the side of the caution. I am, however, not in the motor trade as a main business occupation.

CK

Jamie_Carter

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Yup!

We sell all of our ex-fleet stuff ourselves, and it needs to be assessed on a 'what's reasonable' point of view.

If I don't feel that a car will last a lot longer (as in it has 180k+ miles on it), then it will be sold as unroadworthy, to err on the side of the caution. I am, however, not in the motor trade as a main business occupation.

CK

I may be wrong, but I believe that because you are a business, your sales are still classed legally as trade sales.

CKhalvashi

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

I may be wrong, but I believe that because you are a business, your sales are still classed legally as trade sales.

That is.....an interesting point actually!

Although whether it would be reasonable for something to fail at that sort of mileage, thus be 'wear and tear' would be down to interpretation!