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Intervention ... my take on it all....

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  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    wymondham wrote: »
    Going off on a slight tangent I was talking to a carpet fitter the other day who said stairs in modern houses are made of chipboard??? He was not impressed as it means he can't fix carpet the standard way....

    Anyway, I can't see chipboard lasting a few hundred years!

    Yes indeed.

    I was discussing with a builder why my son's stairs creak something awful.

    When I said it's only 8 years old he laughed and said basically they are rubbish and the only thing you can do is take them out and replace by a proper wooden stairs.
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    Yes indeed.

    I was discussing with a builder why my son's stairs creak something awful.

    When I said it's only 8 years old he laughed and said basically they are rubbish and the only thing you can do is take them out and replace by a proper wooden stairs.

    The post-war council house developments, like the pre-war private estates, were built 'up to a standard'. Since houses became a consumer item, like cars and clothes and holidays etc, they have increasingly been built 'down to a price'.

    There has been mention on this thread about 'shanty towns'. In London, I believe, many people have no choice but to live in converted garages.

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    TruckerT wrote: »
    The post-war council house developments, like the pre-war private estates, were built 'up to a standard'. Since houses became a consumer item, like cars and clothes and holidays etc, they have increasingly been built 'down to a price'.

    There has been mention on this thread about 'shanty towns'. In London, I believe, many people have no choice but to live in converted garages.

    TruckerT



    There I was under the impression that a lot of post war council housing has been ripped down as it was unsafe, damp, moldy etc. because they were built 'down to a price'.


    Most of the houses I know provide happy homes for real normal decent people presumably because they are 'a consumer item' whatever nonsense that may mean.
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    There I was under the impression that a lot of post war council housing has been ripped down as it was unsafe, damp, moldy etc. because they were built 'down to a price'.


    Most of the houses I know provide happy homes for real normal decent people presumably because they are 'a consumer item' whatever nonsense that may mean.

    It depends what you mean by 'post-war'. The problems you refer to mostly emerged in buildings which were constructed long after the 1950s. The same applies to non-council housing, and the same complaints regularly re-occur in current newbuilds. Most 1950s council estate houses can be regarded as highly attractive - big rooms, high ceilings, large gardens, ample storage space, wide roads, parking space - luvly stuff!
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
    If you have a best building program, presumably you have others you have discarded as not being up to scratch. Would you like to share your intellectual process?

    I said one of the best. I never said the best as you are making out.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    edited 1 August 2013 at 11:55PM
    TruckerT wrote: »
    It depends what you mean by 'post-war'. The problems you refer to mostly emerged in buildings which were constructed long after the 1950s. The same applies to non-council housing, and the same complaints regularly re-occur in current newbuilds. Most 1950s council estate houses can be regarded as highly attractive - big rooms, high ceilings, large gardens, ample storage space, wide roads, parking space - luvly stuff!


    complete rubbish

    gives references to the private developments that have been demolished or suffering from severe problems

    and give references to 1950 council developments that are highly regarded

    some very modern properties do suffer problems due to the totally mad policies under the last labour government (and continued by the current mad lot too)
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    complete rubbish

    gives references to the private developments that have been demolished or suffering from severe problems

    and give references to 1950 council developments that are highly regarded

    some very modern properties do suffer problems due to the totally mad policies under the last labour government (and continued by the current mad lot too)

    I guess we could also blame the last labour government for the weather!

    It was you, not me, who brought up the issue of chipboard stair-rises etc.

    Come to think of it, I'm not sure how many 1950s housing developments were privately constructed, and how many were council-built. Private housing from the 1930s is everywhere, just like private housing from the 1960s onwards. But the 1950s is/are dominated by council building and the development of new towns such as Stevenage and Harlow etc. So far as I am aware, most of Stevenage and Harlow is still standing.

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
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