"The Charity Shop".

[Deleted User]

On my local High Street, we have a "The Charity Shop".

It supports a local animal charity. It states "Supporting Bla Bla Bla".

So can anyone tell me what sort of setup this is?

Is this a Charity or a Company supporting a Charity?

And do the Charity have to give permission for the Company/ People to use the Charity name to open the shop.

It's clearly not making a lot of money and is used for some sort of business reason - just not sure what :cool:

LittleVoice

assj wrote: »

On my local High Street, we have a "The Charity Shop".

It supports a local animal charity. It states "Supporting Bla Bla Bla".

So can anyone tell me what sort of setup this is?

Is this a Charity or a Company supporting a Charity?

And do the Charity have to give permission for the Company/ People to use the Charity name to open the shop.

It's clearly not making a lot of money and is used for some sort of business reason - just not sure what :cool:

Is "Bla Bla Bla" the name of a charity or a general statement of what they are supporting?

If it is a registered charity it would need to display the charity number. If it were a business raising money for the charity, it also has to display the charity number.

[A "charity shop" opened near my workplace. It wasn't a registered charity but that is allowed. As far as I could see, it didn't have much stock and tried various methods for getting income - after a while offered coffee/tea (but only for a short time, I suspect because they didn't have requisite food hygiene requirements in place) and then offered to purchase used clothing as well as continuing to have "stock" for sale. It was then solely a place offering to purchase clothes for cash and eventually was closed within the year.]

[Deleted User]

Yes the bla bla bla is the Charity Name. But I don't see any Charity Number on the sign or windows.

So would this shop get permission from the Charity it works for? And the shop runs in anyway that it wants to giving the Charity at least something?

LittleVoice

assj wrote: »

Yes the bla bla bla is the Charity Name. But I don't see any Charity Number on the sign or windows.

So would this shop get permission from the Charity it works for? And the shop runs in anyway that it wants to giving the Charity at least something?

If the charity is a registered charity - not all charities are registered - then it is my understanding that the charity number should be displayed anywhere that money is being raised for it.

"Supporting" is a big ambiguous. Reminds one of those plastic bags delivered to our houses seekig "donations" of clothes and so on which appear to use charitable wording whilst giving, if anything, a small amount of their profits to the stated beneficiary. But a shop being run by a charity directly might use the "supporting" tagline.

Whether or not it is registered, I would have thought that any charity would want to be contacted about the use of its name and to have some formal agreement with the fundraiser.

[Deleted User]

That's what I though, but again the charity in this case is not very well known and I don't really know what it does or where it is based. I guess it's local and to do with animals from it's name only.

I always wanted a Charity shop see, so I always think about it for the future, learn now and maybe one day ...

paddyrg

If you 'want' a charity shop, you might want to try volunteering for one first so you can learn the trade?

Savvy_Sue

LittleVoice wrote: »

If the charity is a registered charity - not all charities are registered - then it is my understanding that the charity number should be displayed anywhere that money is being raised for it.

But not necessarily on the windows or sign? The sign could get a bit cluttered, for example.

If it's a Ltd Co running the premises (and again, many charities ARE ltd but not all), then those details should also be displayed on the premises, but not necessarily on the signs or in the windows.

LittleVoice wrote: »

Whether or not it is registered, I would have thought that any charity would want to be contacted about the use of its name and to have some formal agreement with the fundraiser.

Most definitely: even organising a one-off event in the name of a charity, you should have their permission first.

However there are many different setups for charity shops. Some are run by a 'trading arm' of the charity, and the charity and the shops are separate entities. Others may be set up independently to raise funds for particular charities: this one, for example, was set up to raise unrestricted income for two charities, while this one is a charity in its own right with one of its aims being raising funds for other charities.

OP, if in doubt about the relationship between this shop and the charity it claims to support, either ask them, or ask the charity!

Wywth

Ask them.

Some charity shops have been known never to pass on anything to the charity they purport to support
http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/walton_on_the_naze_man_is_jailed_over_charity_shop_fraud_1_1692542

(Well apart from £5.92 that was siezed from a collection tin)

Jobseeeker

It sounds like the same setup as those bags that come through your door.

I.e a private company which makes a profit but donates around 5% to a specific charity. The british heart foundation were on watchdog (or a similar show on bbc i think) saying don't use those bags give to a proper shop. so it seems that they can do this without the charities permission

[Deleted User]

paddyrg wrote: »

If you 'want' a charity shop, you might want to try volunteering for one first so you can learn the trade?

Unfortunately unless it pays my wages I can't afford to.

paddyrg

assj wrote: »

Unfortunately unless it pays my wages I can't afford to.

I'm sure they'll be pleased for a couple of hours sorting on a Tuesday evening, or a couple of hours on a Saturday/other day. I just can't see you 'getting' a charity shop without some familiarity with the sector, so seeing if there's a route to go about getting you there!