could this be enforced?? on the river

hartcjhart

River Thames mooring enforcement trial 25 July 2013
We are commencing a six-month trial on Thursday 1 August 2013 at
our moorings on East Street, Oxford.
We have teamed up with car park management company
District Enforcement for a six-month mooring enforcement
trial. The trial will look at applying the same civil
enforcement rules used to monitor parking in private car
parks to our moorings. Our customers tell us that illegal
mooring is one of the biggest problems for them - we are
taking action to tackle it to increase access to our free 24
hour moorings, and offer more opportunities to more
customers.
The six-month pilot starts on 1 August at our moorings at
East Street in Oxford. More trials will follow at sites in
Weybridge and Walton upon Thames from 15 August,
2013. The trials will finish in February 2014.
Our ultimate aim is to find a solution which can be adopted
by any landowner on the river as part of a joined up
approach to tackle illegal mooring. We have been working
closely with River User Groups to develop this trial and we
will share the results at the end of it.

fuller info here
http://www.tmba.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Mooring-trial-Briefing-Note-250713.pdf

TIA

Stroma

A mooring charge notice ? I've heard it all now. A question how do they find out who owns the boat ? What gives them the legal right to issue penalties? District Enforcement are ex clamping scammers, they scam people for a living, the only people who are going to be effected by this for the most part are the same mugs who think these are penalties in cars.

peter_the_piper

Surely undoing the string would solve the problem:rotfl:

johnnyrubin

I like peter and stroma on this one. Let the illegal moorers be loose, but put them to the test of some adult consequences. Are you willing to illegally moor, if your boat isnt there any more!!! hahaha

The_Slithy_Tove

So the Environment Agency bang on about "illegal" mooring and "penalty" charges, and then hand it over to a non-governement body (i.e. a PPC scammer), who hand out civil charge notices. This is as stupid as the Byelaw 14 / parking charge deliberately confusing situation at stations.

If the EA want to issue penalties, then they can probably do so under some law or byelaw that covers the waterways. And they should then do so through the criminal courts. I would contend that what they are doing is as enforceable as everything else the PPC issues, i.e. not.

hartcjhart

Stroma wrote: »

A mooring charge notice ? I've heard it all now. A question how do they find out who owns the boat ? What gives them the legal right to issue penalties? District Enforcement are ex clamping scammers, they scam people for a living, the only people who are going to be effected by this for the most part are the same mugs who think these are penalties in cars.

I would assume from the 'river' licence the boat has

bazster

hartcjhart wrote: »

I would assume from the 'river' licence the boat has

But that will not tell them who "parked" it, and AFAIK there is no keeper liability for boats...

peter_the_piper

Moor PMT (private mooring tribulations) to come, will there be a MOPMA? That will be UnPopla.

hartcjhart

peter_the_piper wrote: »

Moor PMT (private mooring tribulations) to come, will there be a MOPMA? That will be UnPopla.

Que!..........................

esmerobbo

Excuse the pun but they have blown the idea straight out of the water by calling it a "PENALTY CHARGE"

"During the trial; we will introduce a penalty charge
of £100 (£60 if paid early) payable by any boat
owner who breaches the conditions of use of our
free 24 hour moorings."

hartcjhart

esmerobbo wrote: »

Excuse the pun but they have blown the idea straight out of the water by calling it a "PENALTY CHARGE"

"During the trial; we will introduce a penalty charge
of £100 (£60 if paid early) payable by any boat
owner who breaches the conditions of use of our
free 24 hour moorings."

so does that mean it is not enforecable