We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Unexpected winfall

In short, one of my mums best friends of 30 years died recently, she had no family and therefore didn't bother with a will, so my mum has been looking after her for a quite a while.

In that time, she said to my mum, when she was gone, the money left in her safe was for my mum.

My mum has opened it and it contains £1000's.

My mum is concerned at putting so much money into her bank account, as she feels she may be questioned about where all the money has come from.

So I'm really asking is my mum right to be concerned or will she be fine in putting in a lump sum of over £20k in notes and/or a few thousand each month over the next year to two years.

Comments

  • chili1496
    chili1496 Posts: 167 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    bingo, lottery, gift, sold an antique lots or things spring to mind put some in the bank each month.
  • dr_adidas01
    dr_adidas01 Posts: 2,158 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    fozmcfc wrote: »
    In short, one of my mums best friends of 30 years died recently, she had no family and therefore didn't bother with a will, so my mum has been looking after her for a quite a while.

    In that time, she said to my mum, when she was gone, the money left in her safe was for my mum.

    My mum has opened it and it contains £1000's.

    My mum is concerned at putting so much money into her bank account, as she feels she may be questioned about where all the money has come from.

    So I'm really asking is my mum right to be concerned or will she be fine in putting in a lump sum of over £20k in notes and/or a few thousand each month over the next year to two years.


    First off if she hasn't got it in writing that the money in the safe is for your Mum, then it can be classed as theft.

    You will find that although you say that she had no family 9 times out of 10 there will be an aunt or uncle or brother or sister you don't know about that is legally entitled to the estate of the deceased person.

    Since she left no will all money from the estate legally belongs to the crown and not your Mother.

    She will have to apply to the Crown for any money she thinks she is entitled and they will make a decision as to whether she has a legal claim to the money she is trying to claim

    You might want to check the government site below to check these facts:

    https://www.gov.uk/inherits-someone-dies-without-will

    Your mother should have made sure the friend she looked after put it in writing that she was entitled to the Money in the safe.
    Time is a path from the past to the future and back again. The present is the crossroads of both. :cool:
  • whitewing
    whitewing Posts: 11,852 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    I think your mum should go and see a solicitor about this. Otherwise it may turn into a very huge nightmare for her.
    :heartsmil When you find people who not only tolerate your quirks but celebrate them with glad cries of "Me too!" be sure to cherish them. Because these weirdos are your true family.
  • wiseshark
    wiseshark Posts: 288 Forumite
    fozmcfc wrote: »
    In short, one of my mums best friends of 30 years died recently, she had no family and therefore didn't bother with a will, so my mum has been looking after her for a quite a while.

    In that time, she said to my mum, when she was gone, the money left in her safe was for my mum.

    My mum has opened it and it contains £1000's.

    My mum is concerned at putting so much money into her bank account, as she feels she may be questioned about where all the money has come from.

    So I'm really asking is my mum right to be concerned or will she be fine in putting in a lump sum of over £20k in notes and/or a few thousand each month over the next year to two years.


    Your Mum needs to be very careful. Can she prove that the cash is legally hers? She could be accused of theft.

    You say that your Mums friend had no family and never made a will, therefore her assets should go to the state.

    It will be up to your Mum to challenge this. She should take legal advice. Good luck.
    You may question anything I say. Just be polite, otherwise you go straight on to my Ignore List, which funds a good old fashioned knees-up every Xmas. Cheers;)
  • fozmcfc
    fozmcfc Posts: 3,098 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker PPI Party Pooper Debt-free and Proud!
    Ok thanks very much, I'll let her know.

    It's certainly not worth taking any chances, as my mum isn't poor anyway, so the money isn't vital anyway.
  • st999
    st999 Posts: 1,574 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    She should just hide it under her mattress, after all, she won't get much interest from a bank account
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    fozmcfc wrote: »
    she had no family and therefore didn't bother with a will
    Of course that's exactly the reason for bothering.

    But the will business has been made so off-putting that people find the most unbelievable excuses for not bothering.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • Herbalus
    Herbalus Posts: 2,634 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    st999 wrote: »
    She should just hide it under her mattress, after all, she won't get much interest from a bank account

    Yeah, because that would help if there was an accusation of theft....
  • opinions4u
    opinions4u Posts: 19,411 Forumite
    It's not Mum's money and it never will be legally.

    Sorry.
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    fozmcfc wrote: »
    ....In that time, she said to my mum, when she was gone, the money left in her safe was for my mum....

    Possibly a case of Donatio Mortis Causa - a gift made in prospect of death. See this HMRC summary here, http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/ihtmanual/ihtm14900.htm

    To be valid, it would appear that it would be neccessary for your mother to demonstrate that the cash had been delivered to her, i.e. that her friend had given her the key/combination to the safe.

    A proper lawyer might well be able to offer a more definitive answer.
    fozmcfc wrote: »
    ...So I'm really asking is my mum right to be concerned or will she be fine in putting in a lump sum of over £20k in notes and/or a few thousand each month over the next year to two years.

    Your mum is right to be concerned. Paying in 20k of cash in one lump sum, or dribbling it in over a period, might trigger a money laundering investigation by the bank.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.4K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.2K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 603.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.4K Life & Family
  • 261.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.