Free 15hrs childcare

tokenfield

georgiasdragons wrote: »

Every child is entitled to 15 hours free from the term after there third birthday.

Free to the parents, but someone is actually paying for those 15 hours!
The likes of me and 1000's of other taxpayers.

I have paid for my children in both private and state sectors. I paid privately for a nursery place from the age of 3.

I have also paid the private fees for my grandchildren at nursery.

So why do I have to pay for the sprogs that have nothing to do with my family as well so that mum & dad can go back to work in order to enjoy a better lifestyle? Bit rich in my opinion.

georgiasdragons

tokenfield wrote: »

Free to the parents, but someone is actually paying for those 15 hours!
The likes of me and 1000's of other taxpayers.

I have paid for my children in both private and state sectors. I paid privately for a nursery place from the age of 3.

I have also paid the private fees for my grandchildren at nursery.

So why do I have to pay for the sprogs that have nothing to do with my family as well so that mum & dad can go back to work in order to enjoy a better lifestyle? Bit rich in my opinion.

How rude can you be????????

I have always worked and paid my taxes - we only have what we are entitled to. AS i said i had 15 hours free and 17 hours paid for by my own money.

Your comments are nasty why are you even on a benefit forum if thats how you feel

tokenfield

georgiasdragons wrote: »

How rude can you be????????

I have always worked and paid my taxes - we only have what we are entitled to. AS i said i had 15 hours free and 17 hours paid for by my own money.

Your comments are nasty why are you even on a benefit forum if thats how you feel

You may have done, but who is paying for the 15 hours now?
All of those that are paying tax now!
I'm just pointing out the unfairness of it as well as making a point when it was said that the 15 hours are FREE.

Why should I pay for a 3 year old's nursery placement through my tax.

In my opinion the parents had the children, they should pay for them as I did for mine.

Ah there we go, we only have what we are entitled to - tell that to the posters on here that tell me that it is wrong for me to claim a disability and sickness benefit and admit that I also work as well. When I say that I am entitled - all hell breaks loose!! Glad you agree with me - take what you can when you can and as much as you can - you are entitled after all.

princessdon

Everyone is entitled to 15 hours free nursery - even back when I was a child you got free nursery, it's a fantastic way to get children ready for school. Parents for decades have got this, and it's a worthwhile investment of taxes.

None working patents get this, so why not working patents? I see the moral argument - but for me it's null and void because the nursery is there regardless, so if they weren't working they still get it.

@tokenfield, did your children not go to state nursery or only when they were 5
At school?

plum2002

princessdon wrote: »

Everyone is entitled to 15 hours free nursery - even back when I was a child you got free nursery, it's a fantastic way to get children ready for school. Parents for decades have got this, and it's a worthwhile investment of taxes.

None working patents get this, so why not working patents? I see the moral argument - but for me it's null and void because the nursery is there regardless, so if they weren't working they still get it.

Precisely, well said. I am a higher rate tax payer, my child gets 15 hrs a week free nursery, I regard it as the start of state education, no different to when they start school, as a worker I'm paying for it through my taxes the same as any working parent. OP if the nursery will allow you to pay for two days (and then you can claim CWTC) and the pre-school provide the 15 hours then good for you. I hope any free time you get helps.

p00hsticks

tokenfield wrote: »

Why should I pay for a 3 year old's nursery placement through my tax.

In my opinion the parents had the children, they should pay for them as I did for mine.

Ah there we go, we only have what we are entitled to - tell that to the posters on here that tell me that it is wrong for me to claim a disability and sickness benefit and admit that I also work as well. When I say that I am entitled - all hell breaks loose!!

Regardless of what rules were or were not in place when you had your children, the current system is that all 3 year olds are entitled to 15 hours of nursery care, just as disabled people are generally entitled to disability benefits because they are disabled, regardless of whether they work or not.

If you or any one else disagree with both or either of those statements, then I'd suggest you campaign or lobby your MP to get the relevant legislation repealed or amended - that's what democracy in action is all about.

FBaby

I don't think the issue is the 15free hours but that OP Alsop wants too claim WTC for hours at nursery that she doesn't actually need but will use to have some time for herself, meaning that tax payers will officially pay up to 70% of nursery cots which are not required to slow OP to work and pay more taxes into the system. Or maybe I totally misunderstood her intentions.

plum2002

Thing is, owing to the way the 15 hours are structured both by fee paying nurseries and that it's over 36 weeks of the year, yet the OP presumably works all year, she'll still have to claim about 12 hours a week CWTC term time and 2 full days during non funded periods, ultimately it may cost the tax payers less to do what she does want to do. Which is probably why it isn't an issue for HMRC

NYM

I know nothing about child care vouchers so anything I write, you can dismiss entirely... I certainly won't mind


From what I've read, you claim for the vouchers because you work and they are used to put your child in a nursery on those two days....Nothing wrong in that as far as I'm concerned.

Now that your child is also entitled to 15 hours free nursery placement, I would imagine the vouchers would be reduced.....I see nothing wrong in that either.

As far as I can tell, the paid element isn't intended to be permanent if a free placement is available.

Maybe, if you ask other part time working parents how much their contributions reduce/remain the same once the free 15 hours kicks-in.

Best of luck whatever happens.

Troutwrestler

Have you looked at state funded nurserys who have extended hours opening?

My 3 year old is stating in September for 5 afternoons 11.30 until 3.45 and we can have any other hours as we need.its free if your on benefits, otherwise £1.85 an hour.
Might be worth ringing your education authority and asking, that's what I did