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Guildance on managing employee

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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    ValHaller wrote: »
    Always always always an employee is entitled to due process, whether they have been there 5 minutes or lasted until lunchtime

    It never is as simple as deciding they are lying or doing it wrong. They need to be confronted and given the opportunity to explain (they could actually be telling the truth or have been misled by a savvy employee who feels threatened) and an opportunity to demonstrate they have learned.

    I would agree with having them on a short lead after that if they are very new. but if you don't engage with them you might miss some truth about your own business.
    Due process consists of no more than paying any holiday and notice due. An employer does not have to give any reason at all for letting someone go after such a short term.
  • Southend1
    Southend1 Posts: 3,362 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    Due process consists of no more than paying any holiday and notice due. A[STRIKE]n[/STRIKE] bad or lazy employer does not have to give any reason at all for letting someone go after such a short term.

    Have added my thoughts on this in bold
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Southend1 wrote: »
    Have added my thoughts on this in bold
    Best not to say anything, saying the wrong thing could open you up to litigation.
  • Southend1
    Southend1 Posts: 3,362 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    Best not to say anything, saying the wrong thing could open you up to litigation.

    Interesting. Since when are people not allowed to have opinions?
  • ValHaller
    ValHaller Posts: 5,212 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    Due process consists of no more than paying any holiday and notice due. An employer does not have to give any reason at all for letting someone go after such a short term.
    'Due process' means at least giving them a fair trial before you shoot them
    You might as well ask the Wizard of Oz to give you a big number as pay a Credit Referencing Agency for a so-called 'credit-score'
  • Funky_Bold_Ribena
    Funky_Bold_Ribena Posts: 2,256 Forumite
    ValHaller wrote: »
    'Due process' means at least giving them a fair trial before you shoot them

    No...within the first 2 years; it really doesn't.
    Sanctimonious Veggie. GYO-er. Seed Saver. Get in.
  • ValHaller
    ValHaller Posts: 5,212 Forumite
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    Funky_Bold_Ribena wrote: »
    No...within the first 2 years; it really doesn't.
    Yes it does. What you are talking about is not giving due process in the first 2 years.
    You might as well ask the Wizard of Oz to give you a big number as pay a Credit Referencing Agency for a so-called 'credit-score'
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Southend1 wrote: »
    Interesting. Since when are people not allowed to have opinions?
    Since an army of no win no fee lawyers set up shop in this country and EU employment laws were forced on us.
  • Funky_Bold_Ribena
    Funky_Bold_Ribena Posts: 2,256 Forumite
    ValHaller wrote: »
    Yes it does. What you are talking about is not giving due process in the first 2 years.

    Giving due process in the first 2 years is exactly what ILW said. If you want to do more then that's great - but there is really no need.
    Sanctimonious Veggie. GYO-er. Seed Saver. Get in.
  • Southend1
    Southend1 Posts: 3,362 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    Since an army of no win no fee lawyers set up shop in this country and EU employment laws were forced on us.

    I wonder which EU employment law prohibits making comments on an Internet forum to the effect that an employer who sacks someone without due process just because he legally can is a bad or lazy one?!
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