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VCS Ltd v HMRC (appeal won)
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Custard_Pie
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So, VCS is no longer a valid defense as the verdict was successfully appealed. On the other hand, adds to the burden of proof of there being a contract in the first place.
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2013/186.html
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2013/186.html
Search my post " PoPLA evidence - What to submit" on what is a good defense for a PoPLA appeal.
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This is old news.Je suis Charlie.0
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We know this already...??PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Coupon-mad wrote: »We know this already...??
Yeah, I know that as it's from March 2013, but wondered why I was advised to include it in my appeal to POPLA?Search my post " PoPLA evidence - What to submit" on what is a good defense for a PoPLA appeal.0 -
It's still a valid defence if its not a parking permit area I believeWhen posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
We don't need the following to help you.
Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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Custard_Pie wrote: »Yeah, I know that as it's from March 2013, but wondered why I was advised to include it in my appeal to POPLA?
Because POPLA do still find in motorists favour when they use it - as you say - to add to the burden of proof of there being a BPA-compliant contract (giving a PPC the right to sue over it) in the first place.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Coupon-mad wrote: »Because POPLA do still find in motorists favour when they use it - as you say - to add to the burden of proof of there being a BPA-compliant contract (giving a PPC the right to sue over it) in the first place.
It's interesting though that PoPLA have made reference to it in their latest report, with comment that many people are incorrectly quoting it when it's been appealed?Search my post " PoPLA evidence - What to submit" on what is a good defense for a PoPLA appeal.0 -
Because some people use a scatter gun copy and paste approach to POPLA and half the time don't really understand what it is they are using themselves or recommending to others.Custard_Pie wrote: »Yeah, I know that as it's from March 2013, but wondered why I was advised to include it in my appeal to POPLA?0 -
I recommend reading the entire judgment. Assuming that because the original decision was overturned that the case is no longer relevant would be mistaken.Custard_Pie wrote: »So, VCS is no longer a valid defense as the verdict was successfully appealed. On the other hand, adds to the burden of proof of there being a contract in the first place.
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2013/186.htmlMy very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016).
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I recommend reading the entire judgment. Assuming that because the original decision was overturned that the case is no longer relevant would be mistaken.
I agree. Still worth citing on certain points.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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