save with jamie

ditsykitchen

On another note, can't wait for Jack's book. I'll probably get the Jamie on for xmas off someone (I always seen to get cookbooks for xmas) and get the agcj one out of the library, then buy it if I like it

Hermia

ditsykitchen wrote: »

JackieO A lot of my family and their neighbours and friends are poor and live on council estates. Almost none of them cook from scratch.

I think they either don't know how to cook (I know I wasn't) or just haven't been brought up in a cooking culture. There are some really poor areas in my town. There is also an excellent and cheap greengrocer and butcher. What interests me is that you only ever see the better-off people from the town in them which is such a shame as the poor people could really benefit from them.

It's great that Jamie Oliver's book is being donated to libraries. The only problem is that it's the better-off that tend to use libraries. I work in a libary and we have lots of budget cookery books and even had budget cooking lessons last year. The only problem is we can't persuade the poorest people to come through the door.

liney

Save with Jamie is £9.99 with The Book People, if anyone is interested.

THIRZAH

It seems to be £9.99 with Amazon now . I ordered it earlier in the week when it was £12 but have just received an e mail saying that I'm due a £2.01 credit.

I'm not expecting to save much if anything with his recipes but I like reading cookery books and after a fairly austere August decided to treat myself.

tessie_bear

i plan to join the queue at the libary to have a look but might buy it if it looks any good...i got the impression from the one show that he is using the economy gastronomy approach of cooking a big bit of meat and rehashing the leftovers...not summat my kids are very keen on so might not be able to use much of it

ziggy2004

I think JO should have engaged his brain and talked to some people who are actually struggling to cook/ buy food, before coming out with statements that can come across as sweeping generalisations.

Really looking forward to agcj's book as well.

jackel

hi all- Please can someone tell me what Jack M's book is called ? Thankyou. jac x.

CH27

Hermia wrote: »

I agree. JO and JM are going for completely different markets. I expect the majority of JO cookbooks are bought by the middle-classes. I think this book is really aimed at middle-class people who are having to tighten their belts (perhaps for the first time). I don't think there is anything wrong with him including salmon etc. I have a food budget and try to cook cheaply, but I am not on the breadline and do sometimes buy things like salmon. I am looking forward to reading both books.

I agree.
He tends to pitch a book at a target audience rather everyone.

Any book that gets people cooking from scratch & saves them money is good IMO.

paulineb_2

jackel wrote: »

hi all- Please can someone tell me what Jack M's book is called ? Thankyou. jac x.

Theres a link on her website where you can pre order it

I'll probably just use recipes from her website tbh and not buy the book

I live in a council estate, I cook from scratch and I dont have a tv, never mind a big tv

A local food co op opened yesterday, selling cheap fruit and veg. The part of the town I live in, over 80 per cent of people are on benefits such as income support and housing benefit. It was mobbed, almost cleaned out within an hour.

That was a really heartening sign as far as Im concerned, Ive spoken about this on other threads, but I worked with young people in supported accommodation for a long time and many people had little to no basic cooking skills, but not surprising as some peoples lives were very chaotic. Some people missed a lot of school, were battling with addictions, mental health issues, both. Many many young people I worked with over the years had atrocious budgeting skills that we tried hard to address but it was very hard going at times.

I think Jamie Oliver missed the bigger picture about poverty, social exclusion and the reasons why some people turn to convenience food.

I dont have a local market nearby, no mange tout for me. Theres one fruit shop in my town, its not cheap. I buy less fruit than veg because veg tends to be cheaper.

Im also on a low income, I cook from scratch as much as possible.
But my telly was one of the first things to go when I was made redundant and I figured that I had better things to do with the licence fee.

Some people on benefits live on the basics. I believe when Jack Monroe started blogging, she was self employed, not unemployed but she was still on a very low income and yes, meals for £10 a week can be done.

But she had the skills to manage her money and feed her and her kid on a very low income. Some people dont have those skills.

And lots of people who work, eat junk as well, in fact far too many people across the board eat crap, hes right about that.

Just be better if he left the massive generalisations out.

sedment

Cant see me buying JO'S book, but have pre ordered JM'S one. Have followed her blog, and think what she does and stands for amazing. I agree with Jamie to a point, but dont think he has expressed himself well, and has come across as really patronising. But it can be frustrating seeing people who you know are on benefits who dont think twice about feeding 5 people stuff from the big yellow arches, and I work and my oh works, and all I can think is 1, dont feed my kids that carp, 2, thats nearly £15 quid spent on feeding them one meal and its just rubbish!!