After the Work Programme

csmw

donnajunkie wrote: »

yes i know people arent excused from jobseeking. another word for the signing process is declaring. so if someone is asked at a later signing for evidence for the excused period they are being asked to declare for that period. unless they have been given reason to believe you didnt do as you should for that period there is no need for them to do anything. they also should inform people if they are expected to declare for that period at a later signing. i bet hardly anyone turns up with 4 weeks worth of evidence. i have watched what they write when i sign. they will have already written the dates for the excused period and written excused. on the next line they will put the dates for the period i am signing for and ask me to sign for that.

Like I said that may be the case at your jcp but not mine. unfortunately not all jcp's work the same way

donnajunkie

csmw wrote: »

You seem to forget a sanction can only be imposed if customer has not taken a required action.

are you telling me you arent aware of how some use unscrupulous tactics to trap people.

donnajunkie

csmw wrote: »

depends which jcp you go to.

what jobcentre i go to is irrelevant. a tougher stance equals more sanctions. that is obvious. a tougher stance doesnt suddenly make a job offer appear. the number of people out of work doesnt change as a result.

csmw

donnajunkie wrote: »

are you telling me you arent aware of how some use unscrupulous tactics to trap people.

Of course I am, which is why I deliver group sessions which I wrote, at my office advising customer how now to get trapped with a sanction.


I may be a linked advisor but I will not refer to a DM unless in my opinion it is reasonable to do so.

AP007

csmw wrote: »

Of course I am, which is why I deliver group sessions which I wrote, at my office advising customer how now to get trapped with a sanction.


I may be a linked advisor but I will not refer to a DM unless in my opinion it is reasonable to do so.

How now? As is how now black cow? PMSL

csmw

donnajunkie wrote: »

what jobcentre i go to is irrelevant. a tougher stance equals more sanctions. that is obvious. a tougher stance doesnt suddenly make a job offer appear. the number of people out of work doesnt change as a result.

but the number of people scamming the system because they thought it was an easy ride does. It's surprising how many people suddenly find a job when sanctioned

csmw

AP007 wrote: »

How now? As is how now black cow? PMSL

Ohh dear you can laugh all you like...still have a job though don't I

donnajunkie

csmw wrote: »

Like I said that may be the case at your jcp but not mine. unfortunately not all jcp's work the same way

so are people made aware they may have to show 4 weeks worth? at the next signing does the adviser write the dates of the past 4 weeks on the line that the person signs on?

csmw

donnajunkie wrote: »

so are people made aware they may have to show 4 weeks worth? at the next signing does the adviser write the dates of the past 4 weeks on the line that the person signs on?

We do at mine, they are issued with 4 logs each with the week the log is relevant for at the top. Then on the signing coupon it will be the date last signed to the date of signing.

AP007

csmw wrote: »

Ohh dear you can laugh all you like...still have a job though don't I

And wait.............when you get made redundant in the next round of cuts oh how we will laugh! :rotfl::rotfl:

I have no idea how you got that job but then again LOL