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DVLA - Failure to notify disposal of vehicle HELP!!

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Right so I received a letter from the DVLA stating that I have to pay a £55 fine for failing to let them know that I had sold my vehicle.
When in fact I did let me them know!!

I sold my car to my friend and the V5 form was sent off the next day, after a few weeks he had yet to receive anything back from them so he called them, I then received a letter from the DVLA asking me to inform them if I was still in possession of the vehicle as there was someone applying to be the new registered keeper (my friend) so I then called them to clear up the matter, I was then told to put all the information from when I sold the car into a letter - date it was sold, who to, etc etc.

A few weeks later he received his new V5 form and I assumed the matter was finished with, but now I have received a fine!

Do I really have to pay this or do I have good grounds to appeal? Although I don't want to end up in court.

Any advice at all would be great!

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  • paddedjohn
    paddedjohn Posts: 7,512 Forumite
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    Ignore it, you will soon be getting begging letters from their debt collectors but ignore them aswell.
    Be Alert..........Britain needs lerts.
  • anotherbaldrick
    anotherbaldrick Posts: 2,335 Forumite
    edited 21 July 2013 at 5:12PM
    I was then told to put all the information from when I sold the car into a letter - date it was sold, who to, etc etc.

    Did you do this ? If so copy the letter and return it to them with their latest demand. If you originally posted it correctly with postage paid stamp in a post office collection box you have discharged your obligation , it is up to them to PROOVE you did not.
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  • facade
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    This is best asked at the pepipoo site.

    Basically, although you are in the right, the DVLA is an infallible machine, and they will take this right to the wire, including court appearances, debt collection services, extra fees etc.

    Although they lost many cases, recently a couple have gone their way, and apparently, even a receipt for a recorded delivery is not enough, as you could have sent an empty envelope!

    If you put a cost on your time, and tend to be a worrier you might like to consider paying the bribe to make it go away.
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

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  • Paradigm
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    edited 21 July 2013 at 6:32PM
    facade wrote: »
    Although they lost many cases, recently a couple have gone their way, and apparently, even a receipt for a recorded delivery is not enough, as you could have sent an empty envelope!

    I've read this a few times recently & I'd like to see some evidence that this is true & not some myth doing the rounds.... I can't find anything to prove this is true!

    How does the seller benefit from not sending the V5, much less an "empty envelope"?

    Not sending the V5 leaves the seller open to any parking & speeding offences commited by the buyer! The seller has nothing to gain from not sending the V5.

    It's nonsensical & I can't believe any court in the land would see it differently!
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  • facade
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    edited 21 July 2013 at 6:57PM
    The myth is now appearing at the peppipoo site, look at "failure to notify I sold my car" post 33 onwards.

    Myth or otherwise, the DVLA do go right to the wire, and it may be cheaper to pay this bribe/tax than stand up for what is right, you don't get costs for sleepless nights.

    Would I roll over? For sake of £55 yes. Worrying about a court appearance at my age might take 6 months off my life, that is worth a lot more than £55.
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • Paradigm
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    facade wrote: »
    The myth is now appearing at the peppipoo site, look at "failure to notify I sold my car" post 33 onwards.

    Myth or otherwise, the DVLA do go right to the wire, and it may be cheaper to pay this bribe/tax than stand up for what is right, you don't get costs for sleepless nights.

    Would I roll over? For sake of £55 yes. Worrying about a court appearance at my age might take 6 months off my life, that is worth a lot more than £55.

    Pepipoo is one of the sites I've seen it but it just doesn't ring true, the seller has nothing to gain from not sending the V5 & I'd like to know how the DVLA would present otherwise if it came to court.

    There's no way on this earth I would send the scamming barstewards £5 never mind £55 if I was right.
    Always try to be at least half the person your dog thinks you are!
  • Paradigm
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    edited 21 July 2013 at 8:20PM
    To the OP....

    I would simply send a letter stating that the car was sold to xxxxx on xxxx date & the correctly filled in V5 was posted to them as required by road vehicles (registration & licencing) regulations 2002 & I have therefore fulfilled my legal obligation.

    Let them take it from there.

    Also consider contacting your MP as the DVLA seem to be morphing into a department operating [STRIKE]outside the law[/STRIKE] making the law up to suit.
    Always try to be at least half the person your dog thinks you are!
  • anotheruser
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    ^ I would do this too.

    But then this is why I also like to email these days rather than write letters because an email is traceable in every way.
  • Lum
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    I would also mention section 7 of the interpretation act 1978 in any reply.
  • Ratboy
    Ratboy Posts: 433 Forumite
    My partner has been in a similar situation, got the letter, and replied, sold on, don't know their details, the letter was sent on basically toilet paper; The DVLA never replied or persued it.
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