PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Inconsistencies in Lease, help!!!

Hi

I'm currently looking into some extending the lease on my property and have a few inconsistencies/mistakes in my lease.

The freeholder on my copy of the lease is not the person who i pay ground rent to. If the freeholder had changed, shouldnt this have been highligted when i purchased the property?

Also, the lease states that the freeholder is responsible for the building insurance and the maintainence of communal external areas. However, the other tenants and I have always provided our own building and contents insurance and maintained these areas. When i challenged the freeholder on this, he told me that as far as he was concerned the tenants were responsible for their own insurance. With regard to the external areas, he referred me to the management company who charge no fee except for the collection of the ground rent

Said freeholder is now asking for an extremely large sum of money for the lease extension. Will these inconsistencies affect the extension of the lease and could this possibly help me in extending the lease?

Comments

  • tim123456789
    tim123456789 Posts: 1,787 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    OhSnap241 wrote: »
    Hi

    I'm currently looking into some extending the lease on my property and have a few inconsistencies/mistakes in my lease.

    The freeholder on my copy of the lease is not the person who i pay ground rent to. If the freeholder had changed, shouldnt this have been highligted when i purchased the property?

    Also, the lease states that the freeholder is responsible for the building insurance and the maintainence of communal external areas. However, the other tenants and I have always provided our own building and contents insurance and maintained these areas. When i challenged the freeholder on this, he told me that as far as he was concerned the tenants were responsible for their own insurance. With regard to the external areas, he referred me to the management company who charge no fee except for the collection of the ground rent

    Said freeholder is now asking for an extremely large sum of money for the lease extension. Will these inconsistencies affect the extension of the lease and could this possibly help me in extending the lease?

    well yes you should have been informed who is responsible for these things, but they change over time and the lease isn't re-written, it always just reflects what the situation was when it was originally written.

    so no it isn't an impediment to getting an extension (except in the sense that if it isn't the person named in the lease, you might not know who to buy it from)
  • daz67
    daz67 Posts: 5 Forumite
    If thats what it states in the lease thats what should happen. Items such as maintenance, insurance etc should be covered by a service charge issued by your freeholder/management Co.
  • richardw
    richardw Posts: 19,459 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts
    Sounds like you need to start the lease extension process under the 1993 act.
    Posts are not advice and must not be relied upon.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Leases are not re-issued each time the freeholder changes.

    To identify the current freeholder, pay £3 and download a copy of the freehold Title from the land Registry.

    If the lease places responsibilityforinsurance, communalmaintenance etc on the freeholder, then he should do it.

    If he refuses, court action would be needed to enforce.

    In the meantime, (and possibly even long term so as to avoid expensive court action) it, it makes sense for all leaseholders to jointly arrange/ pay for building insurance etc.

    Extending the lease? See Leaseadvice here.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.4K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.8K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.4K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599.6K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.1K Life & Family
  • 257.9K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.