tax credit fraud? please help

busybeeme

yes I suppose it just seems like a stupid thing to do the amounts he says he gave her a week was £80 a week and its been for two years. what are they likely to do? criminal record?

Icequeen99

skateykatey wrote: »

you can claim childcare vouchers and tax credits; what you can't do is claim for the amount that childcare vouchers cover.

EG; cc costs are 100 a month, you claim child care tax credits of 75 a month because the remaining 25 is covered by the vouchers.

It does sound like she has been a bit naughty; who know's how long it's been going on for but its caught up with her (or rather him) now.

This will be a valuable, and expensive, lesson for him.

You have to deduct the full amount of the vouchers. Not sure if that is what you were saying in your example? The vouchers get deducted first.

IQ

skateykatey

Icequeen99 wrote: »

You have to deduct the full amount of the vouchers. Not sure if that is what you were saying in your example? The vouchers get deducted first.

IQ

Wasn't quite what I was saying but was trying to explain in the simplest terms.

Jobseeeker

bestpud wrote: »

The claim is his alone so he applied for childcare to cover his working hours.

Way I see it, he's fraudulently claimed money he wasn't entitled to.

he didn't know the ex wife was on the fiddle!

if it does get as far as court that will of course be his defence. It will more than likely be treated as an overpayment and the ex wife should give him the money back

princessdon

I don't see this a fraud, an over payment yes, which I'd recover from his ex as she got the spare via vouchers and keeping his money.

princessdon

busybeeme wrote: »

she isn't the resident parent he is does that matter? the amount he claimed was the amount that was paid

Also this is wrong, childcare only ever covers 70% maximum. So where was the other 30% coming from if the amount claimed was the amount paid? Who did he think was paying the other 30%?

georgiasdragons

Can you get invoices from the childcare provider as evidence that these were being paid?

Maybe this would reduce the overpayment slightly?

Icequeen99

busybeeme wrote: »

hi my partner has had a letter from the tax credits saying his childcare has been checked and the information he has given is not correct.

he has his daughter 4 days out of 7 and she is registered at his address and he gets the child benefit, doctor registered at his address ect.

on talking to him it turns out he has been giving the child care money to his ex to pay the childminder her idea he pays the full amount to her as that is what they did when they lived together and nothing has changed. she has been going to her work and getting child care vouchers to get some of her wages tax free for the last 2 years.

could someone tell me who is at fault? and what the outcome is likely to be please?

If he is your partner, is he claiming with you as part of a couple? You may find the next check is around that aspect of the claim.

Getting child minding receipts won't help, because he wasn't incurring the costs, the other parent was.

I doubt HMRC will do much more than recover the overpayment.

IQ

bestpud

Jobseeeker wrote: »

he didn't know the ex wife was on the fiddle!

if it does get as far as court that will of course be his defence. It will more than likely be treated as an overpayment and the ex wife should give him the money back

It's irrelevant what his ex is doing because it isn't her claim!

It will have asked about his earnings and the childcare he pays for, so putting down childcare that is for when his ex is looking after her was wrong.

There won't have been any mention of her on the claim and he would still have been wrong if she hadn't been fiddling him.

If he wants her to claim for childcare then he should allow her to claim the tax credits.

It seems clear to me and I can't understand why people are harping on about his ex.