Economy 7

Chucksmum
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I have a Smart Meter supplied by E-On, I am on economy 7. My electricity is now supplied by Scottish Power, when I went with them I was told that economy 7 started at 11p.m. and finished at 6a.m, We have recently been taking notice of the ecometer which comes with the Smart Meter, it says that my economy 7 starts at 00.30. I went to Scottish Power's web site and apparently economy 7 starts at all sorts of times depending on the settings of your meter. The economy 7 clock ignores daylight saving. I'm annoyed because my washing machine and dish washer have been started after 11p.m. to save money and I could have been using them during the day. I thought my electricity bill hadn't changed. I will be buying a timer and starting them after 1a.m. None of this was explained to me at any time.

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  • Valli
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    I'm in your region and my Economy 7 runs 01:30-08:30 in summer (when it's BST) and 00.30-07:30 in winter, on GMT, so I would double check your times there, as daylight saving does make a difference.

    The 7 is the 7 hours of the day your electricity is cheaper.

    Mine is triggered (apparently) by a radio time signal.

    I have a washer with a delay timer and, as I usually wake during the night I haul myself out of bed to switch the DW on. (Tried to make it work with a timer but struggled). I also try to run the TD on E7 if I can.

    Before anyone screams at me for running appliances in the night there are smoke alarms in the house.

    Rather that look at your whole bill just compare the N (normal) readings and the L (low rate = E7 rate) ones and check that your N reading is reducing as your L reading is increasing.

    I'm also under the impression that the standing charge is slightly higher when you're on E7, just in case no-one told you that, either.
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  • Haarlem
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    edited 15 July 2013 at 7:01AM
    Valli wrote: »
    I'm in your region and my Economy 7 runs 01:30-08:30 in summer (when it's BST) and 00.30-07:30 in winter, on GMT, so I would double check your times there, as daylight saving does make a difference.

    The 7 is the 7 hours of the day your electricity is cheaper.

    Mine is triggered (apparently) by a radio time signal.

    I am in the East Midlands (The old East Midlands Electricity Area). If you are on a Radio Teleswitch which you appear to be on, the cheaper rate is from 01.00 to 08.00 all the year round. I check my switching times regularly.

    If you have an ordinary time switch adjacent to the meter then you do have to take account of BST
  • at least you have a smart meter where you can easily see the different start and finish times on the monitor. Are you absolutely sure its a smart meter ? I work for BG who have been installing smarts now for over 3 years and so far I havent seen one configured for domestic eco 7 tarffs. Where I work its 12.30 to 7.30 . if the meter doesnt follow daylight saving hours , BST, you need to set your times to come on between 1.30 am and 8.30 am
  • Valli
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    Haarlem wrote: »
    I am in the East Midlands (The old East Midlands Electricity Area). If you are on a Radio Teleswitch which you appear to be on, the cheaper rate is from 01.00 to 08.00 all the year round. I check my switching times regularly.

    If you have an ordinary time switch adjacent to the meter then you do have to take account of BST

    mmm

    this isn't what I was told when the meter reader explained it all to me...

    must check - thank you!

    What am I looking for then?
    Don't put it DOWN; put it AWAY
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  • Haarlem
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    Valli wrote: »
    mmm

    this isn't what I was told when the meter reader explained it all to me...

    must check - thank you!

    What am I looking for then?

    My Teleswitch is a GEC. There is an indicator on the left hand side showing On or Off. Off is the high rate and On the low rate.
  • Chucksmum is angry, but its there on their site to be fair.

    The below list gives examples of possible Scottish Power time periods but times can vary depending on make and model of your meter/time switch and the local electricity distribution area that you live in:

    • Eastern = 23:00 - 07:00am
    • East Midlands = 23:00 - 07:00am
    • London Electric = 23:00 - 07:00am
    • Manweb = 00:00 - 08:00am
    • MEB (mechanical meter) = Summer time - 01:00 - 08:00am Winter time - 00:00 - 07:00am
    • MEB (Radio teleswitch meter) = Summer time - 01:30 - 08:30am Winter time - 22:30 - 00:30am and - 02:30 - 07:30am
    • Northern = 00:30 - 07:30am
    • Norweb = 00:30 - 07:30am
    • Scottish Hydro = ( All meters have different settings)
    • ScottishPower = 22:00 - 08:30am
    • Seeboard = 22:30 - 00:30 and 02:30 - 07:30am
    • Southern = 23:30 - 06:30am
    • SWALEC = (All meters have different settings)
    • SWEB = (All meters have different settings)
    • Yorkshire = 00:30 - 07:30am

    The odds are that Chucksmum's meter is an AMPY and looks like this

    5184%20electric%20meter.JPG

    BTW - GEC's do two, a ;

    - can-not [simple] vary heating load time without varying peak/off peak time
    - can [double] vary heating load time without varying peak/off peak time
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