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No vehicle tax

Bit of a theoretical question this but what is LIKELY to happen if:
a) my car was spotted parked outside my house on the public road with no tax i.e none on DVLA computer? Seized immediately or warning given? If seized, by whom?
b) I was driving (being the hardened crim I still have no tax) and was spotted by i) an ANPR-equipped police car with officers not otherwise engaged or ii) a static ANPR camera?

I should point out that my car is most definitely taxed/MoT'ed/insured!...the question is not entirely about motoring. Thanks in advance for any input
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  • spacey2012
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    edited 14 July 2013 at 10:50AM
    If seized, by whom?


    The entity it is registered to.
    google "trust law" and "registration".

    You are just the Keeper.
    Be happy...;)
  • pogofish
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    edited 14 July 2013 at 11:04AM
    You in most cases, you would get a fine for no tax through the post. Must be hundreds of threads from people who have been hit in this forum.

    If you are unlucky enough to live in one of the areas they like to make an example of - usually on major roads so its pretty visible IME. They will clamp and tow the car.

    Its VOSA who does the seizing round here, usually with local police and their contractors in tow but I suppose police could be doing it as well?
  • spacey2012 wrote: »
    If seized, by whom?


    The entity it is registered to.
    google "trust law" and "registration".

    You are just the Keeper.

    I mean...who/which agency (local or national) would do the seizing...council, police, VOSA...Coastguard??!
  • I mean...who/which agency (local or national) would do the seizing...council, police, VOSA...Coastguard??!

    DVLA or the Police.
  • Ultrasonic
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    the question is not entirely about motoring.

    Would you care to share what it is about then? I'm struggling to come up with any explanation for the question other than that you or someone you know is hoping to get away without paying road tax (VED). Or that you want to report someone who is.
  • Ultrasonic wrote: »
    Would you care to share what it is about then? I'm struggling to come up with any explanation for the question other than that you or someone you know is hoping to get away without paying road tax (VED). Or that you want to report someone who is.

    If you don't want to add anything, why bother struggling with the question???! My car is utterly legal as I said; its about attitudes vis-a-vis motoring compared to other aspects of lawbreaking committed by others.
  • scotsbob
    scotsbob Posts: 4,632 Forumite
    Ultrasonic wrote: »
    Would you care to share what it is about then? I'm struggling to come up with any explanation for the question other than that you or someone you know is hoping to get away without paying road tax (VED). Or that you want to report someone who is.

    Why is that relevant? Either you can answer the question or you move along.
  • Tilt
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    Vehicle without tax (assuming it's not SORNd);
    Step 1= Penalty notice through the post from DVLA giving warning of futher action unless re-taxed (to include payment for period of non-tax) or SORN
    Step 2= (and many weeks down the road) clamped by DVLA contractors with warning of removal and further penalty
    Step 3= (further few weeks down the road) Vehicle removed by DVLA contractors with notification of time limit to re-tax and recover vehicle (by now, it's expensive)
    Step 4= Following time limit given, vehicle scrapped
    Step 5= Buy replacement vehicle.

    Note; unless the vehicle is also without insurance, the police will not be involved unless requested by DVLA.
    PLEASE NOTE
    My advice should be used as guidance only. You should always obtain face to face professional advice before taking any action.
  • Ultrasonic
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    edited 14 July 2013 at 1:16PM
    scotsbob wrote: »
    Why is that relevant? Either you can answer the question or you move along.

    It is relevant because most curious people reading this thread would like to know. The OP really was a bit of a tease!

    Also, if the OP has reasons other than I suggested for asking the question, then they might find they get more useful information by giving the true picture.
  • AceP
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    Bit of a theoretical question this but what is LIKELY to happen if:
    a) my car was spotted parked outside my house on the public road with no tax i.e none on DVLA computer? Seized immediately or warning given? If seized, by whom?
    b) I was driving (being the hardened crim I still have no tax) and was spotted by i) an ANPR-equipped police car with officers not otherwise engaged or ii) a static ANPR camera?

    I should point out that my car is most definitely taxed/MoT'ed/insured!...the question is not entirely about motoring. Thanks in advance for any input

    Parked on a public road is liable to straight towaway, although most of the time it will be ok unless reported by someone or a hawk-eyed officer.

    Driving on the other hand will get it seized under section 165 of the RTA. Upon seizure you will be given details of where its taken to, and they will tell you that its something like £105 plus £14 each day you don't collect it. If after 14 days it remains uncollected it will be crushed. To collect it, you will need evidence of tax, insurance and MOT. This will all be in addition to the fact you will be reported for driving with no tax which I think, along with insurance is classed as an "absolute offence" to which incurs a £200 fine and 6 penalty points.

    HTH
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