Private Car Park Security

rhysowen9

Hey Guys,

This is just a short series of queries trying to find out where I stand. Any advice or tips are highly appreciated.

The situation:
I am a tenant renting a flat in a small block of flats. There is a private car park (for residence only), this backs onto a lane and is accessible from the road. There are no security gates and people often walk through from the lane.
My car (16 year old corsa) was broken into on Monday (door crowbarred) and the stereo stolen.

The warden has notified me that there "used to be CCTV, but its broken now".
I cannot make a claim on my insurance as I am a young driver and the excess is more than any repair cost (car may as well just be written off, plus I'll have a massive premium next year).

My Questions:
1) What are the LL's responsibilities with regards to the security of the carpark?
2) Does the LL have a responsibility to ensure that the CCTV provided is fixed if broken?
3) There are "street lights" both in and surrounding the car park. Is it the responsibility of the council or the LL to get the bulbs replaced?

Any other advice much appreciated guys!

Rhys

00ec25

without reading the lease for the properties and therefore being able to undertand the relationship between the leasehoolder (ie your LL) and the freeholder of the block it is impossible to say who is responsible

presuambly your LL has to pay a service charge to the freeholder for maintenannce of the common parts - whether and to what extent that includes the car park is a matter for the leaseholder and the freeholder to establish

in principle responsibility for common parts is down to the freeholder, or there may be a management company that does the maintenance

hellokitty08

Either way I doubt very much you would be able to claim anything from them or stop the same thing happening again.

rhysowen9

No I know,
I was just hoping that maybe by providing some simple street lighting that would be enough to deter this type of crime in the future.
I hate walking out to that carpark at night, scary stuff.

spacey2012

Years ago you could buy a car alarm from a company called moss security, as soon as the door was opened without the fob the alarm rang like a fire truck, you did not need the alarm, just the sight of the sticker was enough.
These days thanks to interfering busy bodies, car alarms sound like a dying mosquito in a match box.

tim123456789

spacey2012 wrote: »

Years ago you could buy a car alarm from a company called moss security, as soon as the door was opened without the fob the alarm rang like a fire truck, you did not need the alarm, just the sight of the sticker was enough.
These days thanks to interfering busy bodies, car alarms sound like a dying mosquito in a match box.

that'll be because old style alarms woke up the neighbours and they complained.

TPTB decided that the neighbour's right to uninterrupted sleep was more important that your right to protect your property by this method

And who am I to complain?

tim

ValHaller

tim123456789 wrote: »

that'll be because old style alarms woke up the neighbours and they complained.

TPTB decided that the neighbour's right to uninterrupted sleep was more important that your right to protect your property by this method

And who am I to complain?

tim

I agree. I remember one car thus protected and the yobs used to delight in just setting off the alarm hour after hour for night after night.

princeofpounds

I live near a car park. Thank god we don't have those old alarms any more. Someone's alarm goes off every weekend (no crime). The worst are the ones that don't turn off quickly. More than once I've been tempted to go down there and smash up the noisy ones, only the CCTV stopped me! ;-)

I don't think that dud CCTV and bulbs are the CAUSE of the break-in however, so suggest that the liability to you is strictly nil whether the landlord /leaseholder or the freeholder. Sorry.