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Austerity is working?

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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Austerity is working?

    Not for the 2.5m unemployed it's not.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

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  • Thrugelmir
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    Following the doctrine laid down before. Deregulation commenced before he took office.

    Deregulation is not the relevant point. You obviously know little of the financial services sector in the City before the early 80's. When it was a club controlled by a few.

    PS. Financial services is far broader than a few banks.
  • Thrugelmir
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    Austerity is not working, indeed what do this government define as 'austerity'? Is it paying out huge amounts for ex prime ministers funerals, funding the royal family, bailing out banks, spending on expensive conflict abroad?

    We won't mention the 2 aircraft carriers that were commissioned then..........
  • OffGridLiving
    OffGridLiving Posts: 585 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    We won't mention the 2 aircraft carriers that were commissioned then..........

    Not to mention the outrageously expensive and completely pointless trident nuclear deterent.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Deregulation is not the relevant point. You obviously know little of the financial services sector in the City before the early 80's. When it was a club controlled by a few.

    PS. Financial services is far broader than a few banks.

    I have knowledge of it , doubt it is as in depth as you. I was really thinking late 80s onwards.
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  • angrypirate
    angrypirate Posts: 1,151 Forumite
    Don't know here you are checking about the royal family costs but you may want to read this http://www.republic.org.uk/What%20we%20want/In%20depth/Royal%20finances/index.php
    or this http://news.sky.com/story/955117/how-much-does-the-royal-family-cost or even this http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20130129110402/http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/leg_sovereign_grant_faq.htm
    Voluntary taxation? joke.

    As for Mrs T's funeral, the cost even moved Osborne to tears billed as the most expensive etc...
    Not sure what you mean by the term 'pilgrim nurses' but having worked in NHS in 80s and 90s and working there now I can see the massive improvements made simply by properly funding the service which I'm sure you will agree is what ill people want rather than some cowboy operation run on used bog roll.
    The sovereign grant is equal to 15% of the crown estates profit. Crown estates profits all go to the treasury.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/10144528/The-Queens-funding-to-rise-5pc-as-Crown-Estate-posts-record-profits.html
    So official figures show that this year she will receive £37.9 million from the Treasury for this year, however the Crown Estate has contributed £252million to the Treasury. So really the Treasury hasnt done bad out of it (net of over £200 million). But instead lets take your vested interest website "Republic" figures of Queenie costing us £202million thats still a net of £50million going to the Treasury.

    Pilgrim Nurses are Nurses employed by the NHS who are union representatives. They SOLELY are union reps and dont do any nursing at the expense of the tax payer
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Pilgrim
    And there arent just Nurses - there are all sorts of public works with this job costing us millions a year completely legal under labour. In fact Labour turned a blind eye to it and refused to admit a problem. Tories have now started to cap this.

    If the NHS was so great under Labour, try telling it to the families affected by the Mid Staffordshire NHS

    Ive seen wastage - Ive got family in the NHS and Ive got family who are lawyers who have dealt with litigation with public sector contracts and have seen the wastage in the contracts. Also whilst under Labour the money was tight in the Tory stronghold consitituents but plenty of money went to the Labour consitituents - all witnessed first hand.

    Right now the NHS is hemorrhaging money, even under the Tories. Until the spending cap is lifted on the NHS, you cant say we havent had austerity. Yes medicine is getting more and more advanced, but it is also getting more and more expensive and someone has to pay. Either we are going to have much higher taxes in the future or there is going to be a limit what NHS offers (that is another debate)
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