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Austerity is working?
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The NHS would be fine if they did not waste as much as they do.
It would help if successive governments didn't keep rearranging it at great cost, top end expensive layers of bureaucracy and dubious free markets.
Full price recovery for treatment from those not entitled. Reducing non essential cosmetic and lifestyle treatments."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
Most NHS purchasing departments, despite having massive buying power are paying more for everyday items than the local corner shop.grizzly1911 wrote: »It would help if successive governments didn't keep rearranging it at great cost, top end expensive layers of bureaucracy and dubious free markets.
Full price recovery for treatment from those not entitled. Reducing non essential cosmetic and lifestyle treatments.0 -
Most NHS purchasing departments, despite having massive buying power are paying more for everyday items than the local corner shop.
A failure of bureaucracy and the free market taking advantage - again.
Trading wooden dollars is invariably inefficient ."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
The economic turnaround is gathering momentum. Miliband is on borrowed time. The reforming radical Gov't has delivered so much in such a short time, from gay marriage to tackling nasty nursing, ending sham Uni's to deporting terrorists, turning UK University research into Uk products, increasing exports to the world beyond Europe, keeping council tax capped, reforming welfare for the good of all, reforming the adoption service, making Britain the place for enterprise and just giving us back our innate pride.
In time people will realise Britain is being made great again.0 -
Agreed that we havent really had austerity yet. But that is pretty much all in your post I agree withDesperate_Housewife wrote: »No.
Austerity is not working, indeed what do this government define as 'austerity'? Is it paying out huge amounts for ex prime ministers funerals, funding the royal family, bailing out banks, spending on expensive conflict abroad?
Sounds like we are not all in this together....same old tories.
Labour had to spend a fortune to get the NHS up to scratch after years of chronic underspending when the tories were in before.
Lady Thatchers funeral came in way under budget (under budget is a term labour are not familiar with) and was partly funded by her family.
Last time I checked, the Royal Estate was massively profit making and all profits go to the Chancellor.
Bailing out banks was done under the previous government and is not included in the deficit / national debt.
Far more was spent on conflict abroad by Labour in Iraq and Afghanistan. Tories have made every attempt to get our troops out of there quicky but without leaving a power vacuum. This was done extremely effectively in Libya. If you actually read around the history on this, you will learn the efforts William Hague went to in order to ensure Iraq / Afghanistan power vacuum issues were not repeated. This has not ever been seriously covered by the mainstream media and it is a great shame as it is a success story in its own right.
Labour certainly spent a load on the NHS. Shame most of it was wasted on ineffective bloated middle management, pilgrim nurses (which Tories have now capped) and severance pay to keep people quiet (strangely this was kept quiet under labour).0 -
angrypirate wrote: »to keep people quiet (strangely this was kept quiet under labour).
A bit like care homes in Wales under the conservatives?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »
Didn't something significant happen in 2008?
Unfortunately the previous Chancellor had based future public sector and welfare spending plans on an ever growing contribution from the Financial Services Sector. When it was realised that the Golden Goose wasn't laying golden eggs but piles of dung. It was all too late. As the loss of income was simply irreplacable. There was and still is no where to hide. As the remainder of the economy cannot instantly plug the gap. Only banking casinos have the ability to make money in a second.0 -
angrypirate wrote: »Agreed that we havent really had austerity yet. But that is pretty much all in your post I agree with
Lady Thatchers funeral came in way under budget (under budget is a term labour are not familiar with) and was partly funded by her family.
Last time I checked, the Royal Estate was massively profit making and all profits go to the Chancellor.
Bailing out banks was done under the previous government and is not included in the deficit / national debt.
Far more was spent on conflict abroad by Labour in Iraq and Afghanistan. Tories have made every attempt to get our troops out of there quicky but without leaving a power vacuum. This was done extremely effectively in Libya. If you actually read around the history on this, you will learn the efforts William Hague went to in order to ensure Iraq / Afghanistan power vacuum issues were not repeated. This has not ever been seriously covered by the mainstream media and it is a great shame as it is a success story in its own right.
Labour certainly spent a load on the NHS. Shame most of it was wasted on ineffective bloated middle management, pilgrim nurses (which Tories have now capped) and severance pay to keep people quiet (strangely this was kept quiet under labour).
Don't know here you are checking about the royal family costs but you may want to read this http://www.republic.org.uk/What%20we%20want/In%20depth/Royal%20finances/index.php
or this http://news.sky.com/story/955117/how-much-does-the-royal-family-cost or even this http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20130129110402/http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/leg_sovereign_grant_faq.htm
Voluntary taxation? joke.
As for Mrs T's funeral, the cost even moved Osborne to tears billed as the most expensive etc...
Not sure what you mean by the term 'pilgrim nurses' but having worked in NHS in 80s and 90s and working there now I can see the massive improvements made simply by properly funding the service which I'm sure you will agree is what ill people want rather than some cowboy operation run on used bog roll.Save £12k in 2012 no.49 £10,250/£12,000
Save £12k in 2013 no.34 £11,800/£12,000
'How much can you save' thread = £7,050
Total=£29,100
Mfi3 no. 88: Balance Jan '06 = £63,000. :mad:
Balance 23.11.09 = £nil.
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Things have stared to charge in the last couple of years, but any supplier of medical equipment or services made make a fortune off the NHS. Typically you could sell stuff for twice the price.0
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Thrugelmir wrote: »Unfortunately the previous Chancellor had based future public sector and welfare spending plans on an ever growing contribution from the Financial Services Sector.
Following the doctrine laid down before. Deregulation commenced before he took office.
I am no fan of his but I doubt things would have been any different had the prior administration continued on it's path. It might not a spent quite so much but somehow I don't think they would have banked any either, They hadn't banked or invested any inflows previously."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0
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