Valid train route London-Newcastle?

jjblondie

Hi all,

I possess a train ticket from Birmingham to London and London to Newcastle; however, going straight from Birmingham instead of going down to London and back out again would save a fair bit of time. Is there any way a route from Birmingham to Newcastle could be made valid with those tickets, plus perhaps an extra ticket? To make it more complex, I will actually be leaving from Coventry.

Many thanks for any help

dzug1

two questions:

do you have a train ticket Birmingham to Newcastle route London or separate tickets Birmingham London and London Newcastle?

What sort of ticket(s) is it anyway? By that I mean 'advance' or 'anytime' or '(super) off peak'.

jjblondie

Thanks for the reply! The Birmingham to London part is off peak, London Midland only, and the London to Newcastle part is super off peak, any permitted route.

They are two completely different tickets.

dzug1

Your Birmingham London ticket doesn't help at all

The London Newcastle one is as far as I can make out valid for break of journey so you could, subject to time restrictions, join at an intermediate station - you'd need to buy a ticket from Coventry to that intermediate station. Anywhere between Peterborough and York would do. Peterborough via Nuneaton/Leicester is probably nearest, maybe not quickest

Edit - couple of other thoughts:

use your LM ticket to Northampton then X4 bus to Peterborough
use your LM ticket to Milton Keynes then X5 bus to St Neots

bocadillo

dzug1 wrote: »

Your Birmingham London ticket doesn't help at all

The London Newcastle one is as far as I can make out valid for break of journey so you could, subject to time restrictions, join at an intermediate station - you'd need to buy a ticket from Coventry to that intermediate station. Anywhere between Peterborough and York would do. Peterborough via Nuneaton/Leicester is probably nearest, maybe not quickest

Edit - couple of other thoughts:

use your LM ticket to Northampton then X4 bus to Peterborough
use your LM ticket to Milton Keynes then X5 bus to St Neots

The poster would not have to get as far as the East Coast Main Line for his London to Newcastle ticket to be valid. Such an 'any permitted' ticket is valid on Maps MM + ER. He would therefore only need to purchase a ticket from Coventry to Leicester and from there travel to Derby where he would take a Cross-Country train to Newcastle. Whether this route is viable would depend on the timing restrictions imposed by the Super Off-Peak nature of his ticket.

anotheruser

The Birmingham to London ticket means you can only travel on a London Midland train.

As you say the London to Newcastle part says "Any Permitted" then via Birmingham should be a valid route. However you will have to check with Cross Country Trains to see when their Super Off Peak is. They may not have such a ticket, where as East Coast probably do.

yorkie2

anotheruser wrote: »

The Birmingham to London ticket means you can only travel on a London Midland train.

As you say the London to Newcastle part says "Any Permitted" then via Birmingham should be a valid route. However you will have to check with Cross Country Trains to see when their Super Off Peak is. They may not have such a ticket, where as East Coast probably do.

The first part of this post is inaccurate, and the later part simply does not make any sense!

bocadillo wrote: »

The poster would not have to get as far as the East Coast Main Line for his London to Newcastle ticket to be valid. Such an 'any permitted' ticket is valid on Maps MM + ER. He would therefore only need to purchase a ticket from Coventry to Leicester and from there travel to Derby where he would take a Cross-Country train to Newcastle. Whether this route is viable would depend on the timing restrictions imposed by the Super Off-Peak nature of his ticket.

Now, this is good advice.

The ticket is perfectly valid on the London - Leicester - Derby - Sheffield - York - Newcastle route.

anotheruser

yorkie2 wrote: »

anotheruser wrote: »

The Birmingham to London ticket means you can only travel on a London Midland train.

The first part of this post is inaccurate

Oh, so when the guy said:

jjblondie wrote: »

The Birmingham to London part is off peak, London Midland only.

then he must have meant it didn't say "London Midland Only" at all :P

yorkie2 wrote: »

and the later part simply does not make any sense!

Different companies have different tickets, so the OP would have to check when Cross Countrys' super off-peak times are or if they have any such ticket. But then I guess that part of the ticket would say "XC Only" as it would be a specific ticket for their company.

Still, much easier than catching buses and going all over the place just to not go via London.

Mrs_Ryan

XC do have super off peak.

I've bought one many times on Leicester/Sheffield to Newcastle and vice versa or to Nottingham from Newcastle via Sheffield.

Valid weekdays after 9.30 am.