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Ending my contract and hiring someone new.

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  • MisterMan_2
    MisterMan_2 Posts: 67 Forumite
    Walstri wrote: »
    If your signature is anything to go by, I see you as extremely arrogant. Perhaps you're not a model employee as you think yourself to be? Either way if you push it they are likely to refuse giving you any reason other than for business reasons they can't disclose to you.

    You're over thinking a little, no?
  • cgk1
    cgk1 Posts: 1,300 Forumite
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    This is quite common in education (and of course other fields) - I have a colleague who was on a fixed term contract like you - they naturally thought this mean that they would simply be given another - however the job was advertised, they didn't get the next fixed term and they will be finished in a few weeks.

    I think, as others have pointed out to you, something you have to get your head around is that you have a fixed term post - it's not your job and your legal rights are virtually non-existent.
  • cgk1
    cgk1 Posts: 1,300 Forumite
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    Walstri wrote: »
    Ask yourself, have you ever unwittingly made a joke that offended anyone in your work place? There's a reason they don't want you there anymore. Usually people get disciplined if they're that incompetent but if your track record is good then it's a clash of personality.

    Oh come on, that is an awful lot of mind-reading based upon a throw-away gag about a bacon sandwich.
  • kingfisherblue
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    In my area, TAs are often employed to work with a specific pupil with SEN. The job adverts state, very clearly, that the post is subject to funding and if this ceases, the job will also cease. Some have a specific finish date, such as those in a primary school where the child is in year 6.

    The contract comes to an end when funding ends. The schools sometimes receive separate funding for other children, and advertise for a TA to support these children.

    Now, this is where the OP seems to think that she should have been at least given the chance at one of the new posts. Yet she did not fill in a formal applicant, as external candidates would. It seems to me that she expected to be given the job, but this is unlikely as a formal application was not made - only an expression of interest. Therefore she did not actually make an application for the job.

    In addition to the school not having to empty the OP in a new role that she does not appear to have applied for, there is also the fact that she is currently employed as a TA level 2 and the new post is level 1. The head may have considered that she is not interested in a lower position - especially if an application form was not filled in.

    Although the OP has worked with children with SEN, it may also be that she is not considered suitable for the new post because of lack of experience in a particular disability, or that her current behaviour or attitude is inappropriate. For example, if the new post is for supporting a child with Down's Syndrome, her friendliness may be considered to be a potential problem, as many people make the assumption that all children with DS are very friendly and loving towards everyone. (this isn't always the case, but as a parent of a child with DS, it is the first assumption many people make). Now, in this scenario, a good school would want to employ a TA who is able to do the job properly, but also help the child to learn that some relationships are not based on friendship. A child with DS, or indeed other conditions, may become overly friendly with their TA - I don't mean in a sexual way, but rather in a way that they see the TA as their friend, rather than their teacher/support worker.

    Of course, all of this is conjecture. None of us on a forum know why the head didn't give the OP the job. We can only speculate.

    OP, it's time to move on. Accept that you haven't got the job and seek employment elsewhere. Good luck.
  • LouFace
    LouFace Posts: 487 Forumite
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    In my area, TAs are often employed to work with a specific pupil with SEN. The job adverts state, very clearly, that the post is subject to funding and if this ceases, the job will also cease. Some have a specific finish date, such as those in a primary school where the child is in year 6.

    The contract comes to an end when funding ends. The schools sometimes receive separate funding for other children, and advertise for a TA to support these children.

    Now, this is where the OP seems to think that she should have been at least given the chance at one of the new posts. Yet she did not fill in a formal applicant, as external candidates would. It seems to me that she expected to be given the job, but this is unlikely as a formal application was not made - only an expression of interest. Therefore she did not actually make an application for the job. I was not given the opportunity to apply for the position because I wasn't even told it was being advertised. They posted it on the school website without my knowledge.

    In addition to the school not having to empty the OP in a new role that she does not appear to have applied for, there is also the fact that she is currently employed as a TA level 2 and the new post is level 1. The head may have considered that she is not interested in a lower position - especially if an application form was not filled in. I am employed as a TA1. I have never been employed as a TA2.

    Although the OP has worked with children with SEN, it may also be that she is not considered suitable for the new post because of lack of experience in a particular disability, or that her current behaviour or attitude is inappropriate. I already support two children in Year 7. If they don't feel I have experience with a certain disability, there is no reason for them to put me with a new child with that disability.For example, if the new post is for supporting a child with Down's Syndrome, her friendliness may be considered to be a potential problem, as many people make the assumption that all children with DS are very friendly and loving towards everyone. (this isn't always the case, but as a parent of a child with DS, it is the first assumption many people make). Now, in this scenario, a good school would want to employ a TA who is able to do the job properly, but also help the child to learn that some relationships are not based on friendship. A child with DS, or indeed other conditions, may become overly friendly with their TA - I don't mean in a sexual way, but rather in a way that they see the TA as their friend, rather than their teacher/support worker.

    Of course, all of this is conjecture. None of us on a forum know why the head didn't give the OP the job. We can only speculate.

    OP, it's time to move on. Accept that you haven't got the job and seek employment elsewhere. Good luck.
  • cgk1
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    That's all great but it doesn't change the fact that you have no recourse and no legal comeback (sorry).
  • Bennifred
    Bennifred Posts: 3,986 Forumite
    OP - have you applied for the TA vacancy which has been advertised? If so, what was the outcome?

    I'm afraid it does seem that the school was not keen to keep you after the end of your contract. This is not too unusual in the case of TAs - some think they are good when the teachers they work with are of another opinion. What has your line manager said about the situation?
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  • kingfisherblue
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    LouFace wrote: »
    In my area, TAs are often employed to work with a specific pupil with SEN. The job adverts state, very clearly, that the post is subject to funding and if this ceases, the job will also cease. Some have a specific finish date, such as those in a primary school where the child is in year 6.

    The contract comes to an end when funding ends. The schools sometimes receive separate funding for other children, and advertise for a TA to support these children.

    Now, this is where the OP seems to think that she should have been at least given the chance at one of the new posts. Yet she did not fill in a formal applicant, as external candidates would. It seems to me that she expected to be given the job, but this is unlikely as a formal application was not made - only an expression of interest. Therefore she did not actually make an application for the job. I was not given the opportunity to apply for the position because I wasn't even told it was being advertised. They posted it on the school website without my knowledge. The school have no requirement to tell you that a post is being advertised. Maybe they thought you would be keeping an eye on the school website, not necessarily for vacancies, but just because you work there?

    In addition to the school not having to empty the OP in a new role that she does not appear to have applied for, there is also the fact that she is currently employed as a TA level 2 and the new post is level 1. The head may have considered that she is not interested in a lower position - especially if an application form was not filled in. I am employed as a TA1. I have never been employed as a TA2. Apologies, my error.

    Although the OP has worked with children with SEN, it may also be that she is not considered suitable for the new post because of lack of experience in a particular disability, or that her current behaviour or attitude is inappropriate. I already support two children in Year 7. If they don't feel I have experience with a certain disability, there is no reason for them to put me with a new child with that disability. But you don't know what disability any new children may have, and there may not be a post for you continue working with the current pupils, or with anyone else. For example, if the new post is for supporting a child with Down's Syndrome, her friendliness may be considered to be a potential problem, as many people make the assumption that all children with DS are very friendly and loving towards everyone. (this isn't always the case, but as a parent of a child with DS, it is the first assumption many people make). Now, in this scenario, a good school would want to employ a TA who is able to do the job properly, but also help the child to learn that some relationships are not based on friendship. A child with DS, or indeed other conditions, may become overly friendly with their TA - I don't mean in a sexual way, but rather in a way that they see the TA as their friend, rather than their teacher/support worker.

    Of course, all of this is conjecture. None of us on a forum know why the head didn't give the OP the job. We can only speculate.

    OP, it's time to move on. Accept that you haven't got the job and seek employment elsewhere. Good luck.

    This still doesn't change the fact that you have a fixed term contract, which has not been renewed. You also haven't answered other posters who have asked if you actually applied for the job - if you didn't, how did you expect to get it?
  • anamenottaken
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    LouFace wrote: »
    Today however I have gone on the schools website to see that they are advertising for a new TA1.

    What is the closing date for applications?
    Do you intend to apply for this job?


    (You must be aware now that you won't get the job unless you put in a formal application.)
  • Savvy_Sue
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    I'd tend to act on the assumption that there was indeed a misunderstanding and lack of communication and apply for the new job. The alternative is to check with the head and SENCO to see if they are happy for you to apply, or to try to find out if there's a problem.
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