Help Please - Parking Fine Letter but no Ticket

kristovkeen

Hi MSE Parking Fines Experts,

I received a letter 2 days ago from UKPC saying that I have parked without a permit and that they have fined me. The picture attached to the letter shows my car with the fine on the windscreen but I never received that fine (either it had fallen off, stolen or taken by the parking enforcer).

I have only parked without my permit on my dashboard once and that was when it had slipped off onto my front passenger seat and I had forgotten to put it back up, it would have still been clear to see for anyone looking hard enough, but this must be the day the ticket was issued.

The location in question is my work car park policed by UKPC, we have little permits that we display on our cars.

The letter is demanding £100 as I failed to pay the reduced early payment fine of £60 (to which I never knew I had to pay).

So my instinct is to find out if there is any way I can get out of the fine, do I request a POPLA code?

If that is unlikely to succeed do I have any chance of being able to pay the reduced fine as I never received the sticker on my windscreen that they claim to have left there?

Thanks in advance for any help or advice, even if it is to just go quietly and pay the fine. I have not communicated with UKPC at all yet and will await your advice.

Kind Regards

Mike

halibut2209

Wouldn't surprise me if the scammers themselves removed it to try and scam more money from you.

And...IT IS NOT A FINE.

If I said to you that I will charge you £10 to read your post, would you pay? Of course not. Neither will you be paying these scammers

Coupon-mad

You simply need to send a challenge to UKPC and then (if rejected) a full and strong appeal to POPLA, where we currently have a 100% success rate with people who follow our advice. We can help with both appeal stages (do not write the POPLA stage without reading up on it and asking more questions here!).

In many cases we suggest a short challenge to the PPC like the ones linked here:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=80125&st=20&start=20

Do not say who was driving, do not admit to EVER letting the permit slip down and PLEASE stop calling this a 'fine'. Even the scammers didn't use that word but you have typed as if they did. You are taking it too seriously and you are NOT going to 'go quietly' and pay the scammers!

Or you could try a more forceful complaint-style challenge like this on I wrote in post #22 here:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=78168&st=20&gopid=837960

I post as SchoolRunMum on pepipoo as well, and as you can see, UKPC folded early in that case but I think it may have been connected to the facts of that case being a pay and display situation where the person could show the P&D ticket...yours being a bit different. But UKPC are a joke and I do favour hitting them with a 'harder' challenge!

QUESTIONS FOR YOU:

Can you tell us whether this UKPC letter was sent within the '29 days - 56 days window' since the date of the incident?

Does it use the word 'creditor' to describe UKPC at all, anywhere on it, please check carefully?

What is the letter called, what heading?

And are you a tenant, or a leasehold flat owner, or a freeholder?

On what basis are you allocated that space, do you own the parking space? If so why the heck have you agreed to showing a permit to a third party scammer for daring to park on your property?!