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'Right to buy' to be scrapped in Scotland

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  • Politicians - making life easier for whom? Themselves perhaps?

    If you are working to a retirement age and planning for it, an "overnight" shift from 60 - 65 would be a difficult hole to fill at 50+

    Simply being told you don't have the right to buy a house you rent, first and foremost, where the RTB wasn't (or shouldn't) have been the overriding need to take the accommodation, is easier to live with. It is not as though their tenancy is being terminated. They can still continue to rent a roof over their heads.

    If they feel a need to buy save up and do it the hard way like responsible people have always done.

    As I said:
    I gave a few examples of how new legislation has been phased in to make it more fair, and you either agree with them or dismiss them depending on whether you're the one impacted or not.

    I can see both the benefits and disadvantages of Right to Buy but I have no axe to grind one way or the other as I've never lived in a LA home and I don't live in Scotland. Someone asked a question of why the legislation was not being brought in immediately and so I gave a possible reason. End of story really.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    I can see both the benefits and disadvantages but of Right to Buy but I have no axe to grind one way or the other as I've never lived in a LA home and I don't live in Scotland.

    So you only now have opinions on something if it impacts you personally?

    You'll be a little quieter from now on then ;)

    Infact it begs the question as ot why you are on this thread grinding your axe against people in the first place!
  • So you only now have opinions on something if it impacts you personally?

    You'll be a little quieter from now on then ;)

    Infact it begs the question as ot why you are on this thread grinding your axe against people in the first place!

    I wasn't expressing an opinion on the right to buy or the withdrawal of this in Scotland. I was expressing an opinion on why this legislation was future dated.

    I'm not grinding an axe on this thread, I'm responding to people who have a problem with right to buy and reminding them that I commented on the timing of the legislation, not whether I supported it or not.

    Hope that helps you understand. :)
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    As I said:



    Someone asked a question of why the legislation was not being brought in immediately and so I gave a possible reason. End of story really.

    It was a possible reason, not sure pension age was a valid example.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • zagubov
    zagubov Posts: 17,939 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    I'm not sure that the RTB was ever considered 'fair' even by those in favour.

    It was introduced partly because of political convictions/dogma and also to raise revenue.
    I'd always assumed it was to saddle people with debt and heavy regular outgoings throughout their working lives, so they couldn't strike if their bosses put the squeeze on them ;)
    There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker
  • OffGridLiving
    OffGridLiving Posts: 585 Forumite
    edited 4 July 2013 at 11:08AM
    It was a possible reason, not sure pension age was a valid example.

    I didn't say it was the only reason. In my original post I started with "Is it not just the case that..." and ended it with "?", which as it's phrased as a question, not a statement implies that it's a possible reason and leaves the question open for other's to suggest other reasons and other examples.

    No one has taken up the question, they just got on their soapboxes about right to buy, rather than the timing of the legislation.

    You're more than welcome to join in and suggest your own reasoning behind the delay and to provide more fitting examples. :)
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    zagubov wrote: »
    I'd always assumed it was to saddle people with debt and heavy regular outgoings throughout their working lives, so they couldn't strike if their bosses put the squeeze on them ;)


    Naughty:naughty:

    Nothing to do with transferring public spending into private debt.

    Voluntary taxation?
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    No one has taken up the question, they just got on their soapboxes about right to buy, rather than the timing of the legislation.

    Perhaps because that was the original thread discussion.

    Timing was an offshoot.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • OffGridLiving
    OffGridLiving Posts: 585 Forumite
    edited 4 July 2013 at 11:55AM
    Perhaps because that was the original thread discussion.

    Timing was an offshoot.

    Indeed, but then if they were discussing the original thread then they should have quoted the OP, not my post which was on a slightly different aspect of the discussion and not related to the pros and cons of right to buy.
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    Blimey - well I don't really know where to start with this one.

    What about all those people who moved out of their council house just before right to buy was announced by Thatcher?.

    Here's the simple thing Graham, we cannot change history, we can only look forward and ensure that we act fairly.

    Incidentally, don't be naive in thinking the government announced "Get yourself down to the local council house department as from today, you can buy your council house with a huge discount.
    This was announced and ultimately placed through the Housing Act 1980.

    P.S. Did you also realise that: -
    In 2001, the Scottish Executive reduced the maximum discount in Scotland to just £15,000 and increased the minimum tenancy period to five years.

    Like I said, once again Scotland leads the way in progressive policy making ;)
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
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