Parking Eye Parking Charge Notice

Hovite_2

Coupon-mad wrote: »

I like that!

As you know I favour a dollop of sarcasm now with some of he more daft and hopeless PPC rip-off fake PCNs. I like to think of Shona or Matthew at POPLA laughing at the first challenge wording (like with Parking Prankster cases) then reading the POPLA submission and finding in the motorist's favour.

Likewise I like a bit of sarcasm - strangely it seems to make Parking Eye back down very quickly - spoil sports ! :rotfl:

Coupon-mad

spacey2012 wrote: »

Pointing out the mistake gives them an opportunity to quash it.
A very simple denied liability and let POPLA at it with a popla appeal demanding they produce the time machine they used to issue the ticket.

I disagree, they can't quash the points mentioned there in that short appeal as they are 'unquashable(!) and I do think appellants should at least say something in a soft challenge.

A good catch-all is 'your charge is punitive and therefore unenforceable' which stops a PPC replying to say 'you haven't given any reason for appealing'. I don't think we should just say 'I deny liability' partly because the whole point is to elicit a nice quick POPLA code, not to get into protracted correspondence with the scammers.

Life's too short to write to PPCs more than is necessary IMHO!

Umkomaas

Coupon-mad wrote: »

I disagree, they can't quash the points mentioned there in that short appeal as they are 'unquashable(!) and I do think appellants should at least say something in a soft challenge.

A good catch-all is 'your charge is punitive and therefore unenforceable' which stops a PPC replying to say 'you haven't given any reason for appealing'. I don't think we should just say 'I deny liability' partly because the whole point is to elicit a nice quick POPLA code, not to get into protracted correspondence with the scammers.

Life's too short to write to PPCs more than is necessary IMHO!

I agree. Tap them on the head with a lump hammer with the initial appeal. If they still don't blink then the next hit with it at POPLA (with help from here) will make sure they don't get up off the floor.

Coupon-mad

Umkomaas wrote: »

I agree. Tap them on the head with a lump hammer with the initial appeal. If they still don't blink then the next hit with it at POPLA (with help from here) will make sure they don't get up off the floor.

LOL! It's like squishing a spider! :rotfl:

bazster

Coupon-mad wrote: »

LOL! It's like squishing a spider! :rotfl:

There is absolutely no similarity between Parking Eye and spiders. I like spiders. Spiders are nice. (Unfortunately my cat thinks so too)

bazster

It occurs to me that these service station PCN's are even more tripe than most PCN's. As we've seen in this case, all the PPC knows is that you entered the service station and you left the service station, from which they leap to the entirely-unfounded conclusion that you were in the car park.

Service stations have filling stations. OK, most people will not break down in the filling station, but the PPC has no idea whether you did or not. And all filling stations have a shop, and many now have cafes and a small number of parking spaces - so there's another reason why you might've been in the service station for a while but not in the car park.

Many service stations have a motel. The PPC has no idea whether you are staying at the motel, or perhaps going in to it to see if you can book a room.

Some service stations have a garage with some spanner men to work on your ailing car. Some even have a police point where you might've gone to speak to the rozzers about something that was troubling you.

Of course, chumps like P.E. would probably expect you to prove that you were using one of these other facilities, but when push comes to shove at POPLA or in a proper court that is complete bollox: it's for them to prove their case.

Guys_Dad

bazster wrote: »

Dear Scammers

The keeper rejects all liability for this charge on the following grounds:

(i) the Notice to Keeper is invalid; specifically it is dated 4/7/2013, which is next Thursday. Have you perhaps acquired a TARDIS? Anyhoo, the invalid NtK means that there is no keeper liability, so you've blown it.
(ii) on the other hand, should you actually be the next Doctor Who, then your NTK is outside the limit set by the statutory time lords POFA who allow only 14 earth days to serve the NTK based on ANPR. And, of course, doctor, you may have a sonic screwdriver but it doesn't give you the right to screw drivers.
(iii) the keeper's vehicle was never in your poxy car park anyway; between the times when you allege it was there it was actually broken down in the Shell filling station, but of course you couldn't know that because all you've got to go on is a couple of stupid entry and exit photographs.

No further correspondence will be entered into so you may as well cancel the charge, but if you want to make even bigger fools of yourselves then send me a POPLA code. Your failure to do so will indicate your acceptance of this challenge.

So long suckers,

The Keeper

You could always add the paragraph above as well.

bazster

Lol!