revert the pension age to 60/65

Southend1

GhIFA wrote: »

What a load of complete rubbish. No-one is "forced" to work on a Sunday. And what about those who, because they are busy the rest of the week, want to be able to go out and shop, or meet up with friends for a coffee or any other such normal activity. Or those that want to work on a Sunday because it suits them better.

If anything, the Sunday trading laws are still too restrictive, and the view that Sunday is in some way "special" is anitquated and outdated.

Sorry, this is just wrong. I have worked a job where I was forced to work on a Sunday. No, not at gunpoint, but it was that or out on your ear. And yes, it was 7 days a week. Ok we were paid for 7 days but I and many colleagues would much rather have had the time than the money. And not all of us have the luxury of being able to choose where and when we work.

The assumption is being made by many here that it is right that both parents go out to work, and it doesn't matter if children never spend a day with both parents together. Fine, if you think that having the latest mobile phone is more important than time spent with your children.

Re: Sunday being special - could be any day of the week for all I care, but I think the UK would be a much better place if the majority of working people were able to have a day off together on one particular day and spend time with their families.

Pollycat

molerat wrote: »

I notice that the op failed to mention that to get the full sp at 60 a woman had to contribute for 39 years, to get it at 65 only 30 years contributions are needed.

The 2010 changes meant that a person could stop working earlier, from age 46, and still receive a full basic state pension at the appropriate time instead of generally working until at least 55 for women and 60 for men.

That's a good point.

Just goes to show that the OP's post was an ill-informed and poorly worded rant.

Southend1

mumps wrote: »

I recruit people, no one is forced to work Sundays and I don't know anyone who works seven days a week, just because a shop is open seven days it doesn't mean the same staff are there every day. I have students begging for work. I also have couples who don't want to put children in childcare so prefer one parent to work evenings or weekends. You might think it is tragic that they don't have Sundays together but some parents make the decision that they would prefer their child to be with a parent, it is their choice. I have done jobs where I worked weekends, one plus for this is you get your days off when things are quieter, cheaper so I was happy with it. If I want to buy socks on Sundays I don't see why it is any of your business, we don't have slavery, people make choices. The world doesn't have to fit your idea of some bygone age.

Many people work 7 days a week. I used to be one of them. If they work 6 then their day off is often unpredictable and liable to short notice change/cancellation which can have a devastating effect on family life.

Your buying socks on a Sunday is other peoples' business if it impacts negatively on their family life.

Pollycat

Southend1 wrote: »

Sorry, this is just wrong. I have worked a job where I was forced to work on a Sunday. No, not at gunpoint, but it was that or out on your ear. And yes, it was 7 days a week. Ok we were paid for 7 days but I and many colleagues would much rather have had the time than the money. And not all of us have the luxury of being able to choose where and when we work.

The assumption is being made by many here that it is right that both parents go out to work, and it doesn't matter if children never spend a day with both parents together. Fine, if you think that having the latest mobile phone is more important than time spent with your children.

Re: Sunday being special - could be any day of the week for all I care, but I think the UK would be a much better place if the majority of working people were able to have a day off together on one particular day and spend time with their families.

Southend1 wrote: »

Many people work 7 days a week. I used to be one of them. If they work 6 then their day off is often unpredictable and liable to short notice change/cancellation which can have a devastating effect on family life.

Your buying socks on a Sunday is other peoples' business if it impacts negatively on their family life.

I agree with these 2 posts about Sunday working.

Dunroamin

Pollycat wrote: »

I agree with these 2 posts about Sunday working.

What I particularly dislike about Sunday trading is the lies with which it was introduced that it would bring us "into line with Europe"! The ignorance of the GBP about life in any other countries was such that they actually fell for it.

System

Freecall wrote: »

If one could choose their own birth date then in my view the best time to have been born would have without question been immediately post the second world war.

Then you would now be 67.
Why wouldn't you rather be 57, 47, or perhaps 17?

Pollycat

Clifford_Pope wrote: »

Then you would now be 67.
Why wouldn't you rather be 57, 47, or perhaps 17?

I think Freecall has explained very adequately the good points of being born just after the end of WW2 in post #27.

I'm sure that if I were aged 17 now, leaving school with the same qualifications that I did back in 1970, my life over the next 40+ years would not be anywhere near as pleasant as they actually have been.

zygurat789

Freecall wrote: »

If one could choose their own birth date then in my view the best time to have been born would have without question been immediately post the second world war.


Happy days.



Anybody born around 1945 care to comment?

I won't repeat the whole post again.

I have no doubt there wil be a few who fit the profile, but we all worked hard to create the life Freecall so envies and having created it we can now enjoy the fruits of our labours.
Freecall, however, will not because as we all sit here watching the next generation destroying what has been created for them and generally being ignorant because, quite frankly, they are not doing anything to deserve it.

JezR

Dunroamin wrote: »

What I particularly dislike about Sunday trading is the lies with which it was introduced that it would bring us "into line with Europe"! The ignorance of the GBP about life in any other countries was such that they actually fell for it.

England and Wales is still not in line with Scotland, as there never have been restrictions there, and shops can and do open 24 hours on Sunday.

Shops were brought in line with other things that had already opened on Sunday - cinemas, theatres, sporting events etc.

System

Pollycat wrote: »

I think Freecall has explained very adequately the good points of being born just after the end of WW2 in post #27.
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But has glossed over the unwelcome fact that he would now be 67.

I'd trade in all the good points for the chance to be 17 again !