Rented flat: responsibility for flood?

DominicJ_2

One could even argue that the hole in the skirting acted like an overflow and limited the damage a smaller area.
Had it leaked through cracks along the full length of the walls, the damage would have been more wide spread.

Feel free to argue betterment and such when it comes to costs, but your friend is to blame.

Mrs_Imp

Half a bucket is loads.

Are you sure the bath has no overflow? Ours is hidden behind the knob you twiddle to pop the plug up and down.

I suspect that your friend will have to put it down to an expensive reminder that she shouldn't get distracted whilst filling the bath.

moromir

Your friend needs to look at the bigger picture, the damage is entirely their fault, to suggest otherwise or try and construe this as somehow the landlord's fault would swiftly result in a S21 at the next opportunity if it was my property.

maninthestreet

Why didn't the bath have an oveflow fitted?

DaftyDuck

maninthestreet wrote: »

Why didn't the bath have an oveflow fitted?

When I first saw this thread I thought "Oh, silly tenant.. their careless fault.." and moved on. When I next saw it float (hah) by, I thought "What, no overflow?". This time I thought "WHY no overflow???" ... I guessed a free-standing bath, and the ones I briefly Googled all had overflows... even the cheap ones. I found a few threads grumbling about no overflow and the legal requirements of that "state", so guess them forrenners don't always have them, and some of 'em seem ter ought ter by state law... UK... nothing on the first page, and I'm not searching beyond!

But.. but... surely there's an expectation of an overflow.... Isn't it reasonable to assume there's an overflow? If I had rented a place, I would assume the loo was connected to the mains... I wouldn't feel the need to flush, run outside, and lift the manhole. I'd rightly assume it was connected. If it wasn't, LL is at fault not me. Now, I agree, an overflow should be visible.

Or should it? One of my baths has no overflow. I just looked. Well, it does, just it's concealed, right where the tap control is. The other... well, it has an overflow. ... but it's also concealed, as it is part of the plug release. So, an overflow might not be apparent. I fitted those baths, so I know. I'm not sure a visitor would be expected to spot them. In some ways, the baths are designed to conceal them.

If I moved into a rented place, might it not be reasonable for me to assume a bath had an overflow?

Edit: and a working overflow at that... when fit my own showers, one thing I do is check the shower drain can more than cope with shower running at full-tilt... shouldn't an overflow, if fitted, do so?

00ec25

instead of spending time and effort playing the blame game your friend should act with some personal integrity and acknowledge that there is no one to blame for this but herself

Flashmanchop

Just another "its not my fault stories".

Shirley your friend will have contents insurnace? would this cover this?

Takeaway_Addict

DaftyDuck wrote: »

When I first saw this thread I thought "Oh, silly tenant.. their careless fault.." and moved on. When I next saw it float (hah) by, I thought "What, no overflow?". This time I thought "WHY no overflow???" ... I guessed a free-standing bath, and the ones I briefly Googled all had overflows... even the cheap ones. I found a few threads grumbling about no overflow and the legal requirements of that "state", so guess them forrenners don't always have them, and some of 'em seem ter ought ter by state law... UK... nothing on the first page, and I'm not searching beyond!

But.. but... surely there's an expectation of an overflow.... Isn't it reasonable to assume there's an overflow? If I had rented a place, I would assume the loo was connected to the mains... I wouldn't feel the need to flush, run outside, and lift the manhole. I'd rightly assume it was connected. If it wasn't, LL is at fault not me. Now, I agree, an overflow should be visible.

Or should it? One of my baths has no overflow. I just looked. Well, it does, just it's concealed, right where the tap control is. The other... well, it has an overflow. ... but it's also concealed, as it is part of the plug release. So, an overflow might not be apparent. I fitted those baths, so I know. I'm not sure a visitor would be expected to spot them. In some ways, the baths are designed to conceal them.

If I moved into a rented place, might it not be reasonable for me to assume a bath had an overflow?

Edit: and a working overflow at that... when fit my own showers, one thing I do is check the shower drain can more than cope with shower running at full-tilt... shouldn't an overflow, if fitted, do so?

....................no