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Working out how much a fund might go up/down in a year

I am trying to determine how much my portfolio might go up or down in a year. I use FE Trustnet to do my fund analysis and each fund has a volatility percentage but I can't find any information that tells me if this the amount it might go up/down in a year. Anyone know the answer or how else I can work it out?

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  • innovate
    innovate Posts: 16,217 Forumite
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  • Perhaps I need to re-phrase my question. Can someone tell me how to interpret the volatility percentage for a fund - on FT Trustnet it's specified for 1 and 3 years - and whether I can use it to work out - in the past - how much a fund went up or down in a year. To me, part of establishing the risk in investing in a fund, is having some measure of how much it might go up/down in a year.
  • Ark_Welder
    Ark_Welder Posts: 1,878 Forumite
    Trustnet provide descriptions of Volatility and Beta that might be of use. However, the drawback of these is that they are calculated from historic data so might not be a reliable guide to future volatility and beta.
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  • Gromitt
    Gromitt Posts: 5,063 Forumite
    whether I can use it to work out - in the past - how much a fund went up or down in a year.

    Wouldn't it be easier to download the historic data and graphs of the fund you are interested in? Of course, past performance is no indication of future performance.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    edited 22 June 2013 at 1:18PM
    Gromitt wrote: »
    Wouldn't it be easier to download the historic data and graphs of the fund you are interested in? Of course, past performance is no indication of future performance.


    ^^^ what this poster says and Arkwelder

    Have you used the multi chart plotting tool and mapped a few investments to see what they look like relative to each other.

    Up until the last month if you had put a reasonable bond fund on there with a UK equity income fund, the former would be have been a slight income steady growth whilst the latter would have bounced either side and then increase rapidly.

    You can also build a portfolio and track over different time scales and against various indicies.

    Edit:- Citywire will also show what the theoretical worst loss would have been in a given period
    http://citywire.co.uk/fund/invesco-perpetual-high-income/c9305?section=money
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  • kingsleypne
    kingsleypne Posts: 27 Forumite
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    Thanks for the tip about using CityWire - I've not looked at that site before. I like the way it shows you a list of funds in a given sector and you can quickly see how they rank against each other for total return, maximum loss, risk, and sharpe ratio.
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