Reassurance re: Wing Parking on behalf of London Borough of Haringey...

Ellie007

So hapless husband has accrued another ticket from the overly zealous Wing Parking. This PCN has Haringey Council logo on it and says 'working on behalf of London Borough of Haringey'. It is for parking with no parking permit.

Looks too official for my liking, although I know that this is how they operate. So - ignore until we get the NTK through, and then what? Play 'spot the errors' on the NTK? Or appeal now against this ticket, and on what grounds?

As ever, many thanks.

peter_the_piper

What do they actually call the ticket? How much is it for? Where was it issued? What do they say about appeals?

Ellie007

It is a 'parking charge notice'. Not a penalty notice. It is for £100 (£60 if paid in 14 days). Issued in a private car park on an estate.

There is a bit about appeals requiring that name, address, name & address of driver, reg number and notice reference number is provided. It says that POPLA details will be provided if the appeal is unsuccessful.

peter_the_piper

Good, not a council ticket then. Worth doing an appeal (it will fail of course)then cost them £32 to go through popla. Come back then for assistance with the appeal. I don't think there is any need to reveal driver at this point but wait for others to confirm(or disagree)

Umkomaas

Ellie007 wrote: »

It is a 'parking charge notice'. Not a penalty notice. It is for £100 (£60 if paid in 14 days). Issued in a private car park on an estate.

There is a bit about appeals requiring that name, address, name & address of driver, reg number and notice reference number is provided. It says that POPLA details will be provided if the appeal is unsuccessful.

If this was a ticket attached to vehicle (Notice to Driver), then await NtK, and get back to the forum then.

Ellie007

What grounds am I appealing on in the first instance? Also, they say the appeal must contain the name and address of the driver as well as the keeper - I don't want to be doing that, do I?

peter_the_piper

Why was hapless parking where he did? Did you notice how Wing used the "Working with Council" bit to convince more people just to cough up?

Ellie007

Thanks Umkomaas - yes it was stuck on the windscreen. Doesn't state 'notice to driver' anywhere on it. So shall I just hold fire and wait for NTK? Last time these guys gave hubby a ticket the NTK was issued outside the timescale, so with any luck that will happen again....

Ellie007

peter_the_piper wrote: »

Why was hapless parking where he did? Did you notice how Wing used the "Working with Council" bit to convince more people just to cough up?

Where he works has no parking, just on street parking (local streets are rammed with cars) or this huge private car park right next door (which is always empty). So if he can't get parked, he pops it in the car park and moves it as soon as a space comes free. Not ideal, and not right, but often no other choice. He starts at 7am so he has normally moved the car by the time the Wing person starts work at 9. (I'm not condoning parking in the wrong place by the way ).

peter_the_piper

Might pay to get piccies of signs at entrance and inside incase tis goes to popla.

Coupon-mad

Ellie007 wrote: »

Thanks Umkomaas - yes it was stuck on the windscreen. Doesn't state 'notice to driver' anywhere on it. So shall I just hold fire and wait for NTK? Last time these guys gave hubby a ticket the NTK was issued outside the timescale, so with any luck that will happen again....

You have got the hang of this!

Yes you wait for the non-compliant NTK and then send a basic challenge to it, written from the registered keeper in response to the letter (not referring to the 'windscreen fake PCN'). Without naming the driver of course nor implying who was driving.

What date is on that fake PCN because the BPA Code of Practice has just changed a little (20th June I think).

Also does anyone else understand the bit in the CoP that I read in detail yesterday (which, incidentally, had not changed in the section I was reading) where it said that tickets issued for breach/loss in a car park owned by a Council but without a Traffic Order could not use POPLA? And yet it said, allegations of trespass in such car parks can?

Really not sure what sort of private car parks it meant and I thought of these ones and Wing.