When does child benefit/csa stop

milothewestie

Child has left full time education end of may,and claimed jsa

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will they be able to get jsa or only claim when mothers child benefit stops----which have been told is payable till September,
Also when will payment of csa cease for this child is that also when the child benefit stops in the September,or when child gets jsa

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Child may also start part time work this week between 8-20 hours per week are the above benefits still payable if the child is working.

I know it's a muddled question and I appreciate any replies
Thankyou

milothewestie

Anyone help

sammyjammy

How old is the child?

They cannot claim JSA until 18 and Child Benefit/tax credits for child have stopped.

zzzLazyDaisy

Is the child planning to go onto college or university next year? Do you know?

Whatever, the child cannot claim JSA if the mother is still in receipt of child benefit.

If child benefit is still (legitmately) being paid, CSA continues to be payable.

While the mother is in receipt of child benefit any earnings the child may have are irrelevant and are disregarded.

sammyjammy

If child is working over 16 hours wouldn't be entitled to JSA.

zzzLazyDaisy

theartfullodger wrote: »

but guess you need to read CSA paperwork.

Where the child maintenance is being paid through CSA, it continues for as long as the mother is in receipt of child benefit (the CSA rules are much more rigid than court orders).

milothewestie

Sorry very vague,child is 18 so claimed jsa but dip say mother in receipt of child benefit so cannot allow claim,I thought you were allowed to claim as you came 18,
Also she starts work today only part time is child benefit still payable because of part time hours
The benefit system seems very strange to me with qualifying criteria

milothewestie

zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »

Is the child planning to go onto college or university next year? Do you know?

Whatever, the child cannot claim JSA if the mother is still in receipt of child benefit.

If child benefit is still (legitmately) being paid, CSA continues to be payable.

While the mother is in receipt of child benefit any earnings the child may have are irrelevant and are disregarded.

No child is not going to university is having a year out in hope of getting full time work,I thought child benefit would stop if child working as they then become an adult in the laws eyes

MissMoneypenny

theartfullodger wrote: »

For what it's worth I has an agreement to pay £xx/week support per kid to end of full-time education (agreed with court..) - which of course I complied with, to end of University. However a solicitor told me that I did not HAVE to keep paying after GCSEs and thus it was advised pay only in cash face2face, no paperwork

I had a court order for my ex to pay something towards his children; with the same wording. When my ex questioned when his payments ended, the court said that "full time education" in a court order, included university. *This was later ruled to be so; in the family court and the magistrates court, when my ex was late with his maintenance while his children were at university.

We had this discussion a few years ago on the CSA board and it seems that CSA maintenance stops at the end of school education; tied into child benefit (and then the child has to take the unwilling parent to court for maintance while at university). Whereas a court order seems to mean until the end of all education; including advanced education.

Interestingly, a friend had a court order for her daughter's maintanence and when the daughter went to university, her father paid her directly. A solicitor advised the mother that the father should have continued to pay the maintenance to the mother; as the court order was in her name; and that she could reclaim this money as he had breached the court order by not paying her (she didn't). Are you on good terms with your ex, artful?;) No paperwork :eek:

I assume the above is true as when my ex asked to vary the court order and pay his children directly; as he wanted to know what universities they were at; I was advised by the courts to keep the court order in my name while they were at university, because he had a habit of missing payments. While it was in my name, it meant that I dealt with both childrens' late payments (instead of the children having to take their father to court for late/missed payments). *I eventually got the court order Registered in my ex's local Magistrates Court: who then had the power to take their far reaching action, against him directly, when he paid late. They didn't mess around and he soon learned to pay the magistrates court on time.

So it seems that court orders have to be paid until the child finishes university; and paid to the person named in the court order.

theartfullodger

Thanks Miss MP, interesting: Sorry you had such problems - (obviously) you & your children should not have had to go through all that ..

The issue never got tested (eg in Court) and I always (always..) paid the agreed amount ...

Kids, of all of whom I am inordinately proud of) are now well grown up, all working & living with partners...

MissMoneypenny

theartfullodger wrote: »

Thanks Miss MP, interesting: Sorry you had such problems - (obviously) you & your children should not have had to go through all that ..

I'm tough: I could take it:D Plus I had good friends who turned everything he did, into a joke. I still LOL at some of the things. Both children have turned out with really sucessful lives: more than a parent could ever hope for. I can't believe how lucky I am.

Using the court was quite painless: it was the thought of going to court that was more scary. I found that I enjoyed the court experience. The courts act very quickly and have much better powers than the CSA. It's those using the CSA I feel sorry for: although I guess it's a better system for those that were too scared to go to court.

theartfullodger wrote: »

The issue never got tested (eg in Court) and I always (always..) paid the agreed amount ...

Kids, of all of whom I am inordinately proud of) are now well grown up, all working & living with partners...

A good father reaps their reward. I wish these bad father's would realise that when they play games with their childrens lives. My ex contacted his son 20 years too late and got told to do one.