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white gloss that *stays* white, any ideas?

Trying to find the best white gloss (that *stays* white!)... having to repaint my gloss 2 (or more) times a year to try keep it white (when the older stuff used to stay white for 10+years!) is really taking the mickey. apparently its to do with an EU ruling and that is why all the white gloss paints turn a yellow colour and not stay white.

i read a review about international gloss staying white and not yellowing like the new stuff does, but can not find it anywhere local, and the review was from 2011 so things may have changed.

iv thought about using hammerite in white as that should stay white, anyone experience with using that for a normal gloss?
- Chez

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  • WestonDave
    WestonDave Posts: 5,154 Forumite
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    I've started using Ronseal Diamond Hard gloss which seems to be Ok so far. Its the oil based ones that now go yellow due to the EU ruling - the difficulty I had was finding a quick dry which didn't end up with brush marks due to drying too fast. The Ronseal wasn't quite up to the old Dulux Liquid stuff but the difference is so marginal most people wouldn't notice and noone would tell from normal viewing distance!
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  • missprice
    missprice Posts: 3,738 Forumite
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    nope and so I gave up and now use any other colour than white
    in fact the latest colour is pale grey actually called calico and Wickes own.
    too much time spent painting for it all to go yellow made me rethink the colours:T
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  • Good "Trade" Oil Based Gloss Paint from a proper paint Centre. NOT FROM DIY STORE.... Works well for me. You can get additives to make it dry quicker. I never use Water Based glosses now....
  • t_obermory
    t_obermory Posts: 278 Forumite
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    I've got some water based gloss from B&Q which has kept its colour much better than the oil based stuff. Its not as glossy as oil based gloss, but its not as fragile as satin or eggshell which I've found to be useless in a house with kids.

    The water based gloss does need a good solid base coat though or you'll be there all day, it does however dry in a fraction of the time of the oil based stuff which is a bonus.
  • kaya
    kaya Posts: 2,465 Forumite
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    Water based paints are your answer, its the oil in normal old style gloss paint that turns it yellow
  • waynehayes
    waynehayes Posts: 427 Forumite
    I recently used Johnstones Aqua water based gloss, and it is very good. It's much better than Wickes/B and Q own brand water based gloss, and I'd say you'd be pretty hard pushed to tell it from oil based paint.
  • Fraise
    Fraise Posts: 521 Forumite
    Someone told me Crown white gloss didn't yellow, not sure how true that is or not?
  • Leif
    Leif Posts: 3,727 Forumite
    If it is oil based then no, it is not true. I heard that Sikkens oil based did not yelllow, but when I took a lock off a door painted one year before, the area beneath was lemon yellow! It yellows slowly, and like all oil based paints, lack of light accelerates the yellowing. Gloss is the worst, apparently.

    As an aside, when I sanded down the old paintwork, I found yellow paint, and I wondered why anyone would paint woodwork bright yellow. It had been there between 20 and 40 years. Clearly white old based paint always yellowed, but recently it has got worse due to EU regulations on the ingredients.

    I tested some Ronseal Diamond white, and it is very tough. I had problems with brush marks, maybe that was more me than the paint.
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