Stuff I had that my 3 year old doesn't

IveSeenTheLight

Generali wrote: »

I once read a line in a broker's note that said that all builders of any size spend more on lawyers pushing through planning permission against the will of local homeowners and councils than they do on architects and engineers.

I think that the governments have made planning permission easier in contrast with my previous perception.
I certainly had no issues.

The best advise I can give is to talk regularly with the planner and discuss the proposals to gain their approval before submission.

We rotated our house position and one of the concerns was whether our house would dominate the neighbors garden creating an unnecessary shade over their garden.

We then included in the submission a drawing which showed the angle of shading throughout the day at a reasonable 45 degree angle.

this helps to show the planners you are considering the neighbors and also means that the neighbors see this in the submissions and have less concern to raise an objection.

Graham_Devon

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Is that a bad thing?
Schooling should be mandatory and permission should not be granted for holiday's (in my opinion)
In Malaysia, the Chinese community schoolchildren have to go to school on a Saturday if they have had a public holiday through the week.

Incidently, your 3 year old does not need permission

It's all personal opinion.

The only problem here is that it makes holidays for some impossible. The difference between a long weekend in term time and in holiday time is quite literally hundreds of pounds.

Means some never go on holiday - we wouldn't have done if we hadn't have gone in term time. I remember the holidays as a family thing. i don't particularly remember school weeks.

With my 3 year old the principle is the same. He's in education as he's in an offsted nursery. If you want to take them out the rules are not quite as tight, but you will still get a letter informing you you have been very naughty and how you have possibly ruined your childs education....you get the jist!

alinwales

I'd have no problem taking my kids out of school for a week on holiday.. once they're old enough that is. Why don't I care?... because whilst we'll be having fun on holiday, as I care about my kids they'll also be educated but in a different way. The 'no term time holidays' things is bit comparable to the 'must have 5 veg a day': it's not a rigid target, but there to try to force parents who don't give a !!!!!! about their kids that they (the kids) will be better off in education than watching their parents booze it up in mallorca.

Generali

Graham_Devon wrote: »

It's all personal opinion.

The only problem here is that it makes holidays for some impossible. The difference between a long weekend in term time and in holiday time is quite literally hundreds of pounds.

Means some never go on holiday - we wouldn't have done if we hadn't have gone in term time. I remember the holidays as a family thing. i don't particularly remember school weeks.

With my 3 year old the principle is the same. He's in education as he's in an offsted nursery. If you want to take them out the rules are not quite as tight, but you will still get a letter informing you you have been very naughty and how you have possibly ruined your childs education....you get the jist!

I guess it depends on whether you value education or holidays more highly.

Clearly with a 3 y/o that's ridiculous. Once a child is at school? Not so much.

We are taking the kids out of school for a week to be able to go to the UK but there is a trade off between family and school in this case. Given the place of Aus in the world it's normal for European families to extend the holidays by a week.

I'd never take the kids out of school to go and !!!!!! about for a week. When we go away in Aus we normally stay in motels, mobile homes or in spare rooms. I'd rather do that than take the kids out of school to go somewhere posher.

Carl31

Graham_Devon wrote: »

It's all personal opinion.

The only problem here is that it makes holidays for some impossible.

thats part of the decision of having children though imo

if you cant go a few years without a holiday, then are children for you?

Imo, taking kids out of school for holidays is as bad as benefit fraud, school is paid for by the taxpayer, you shouldnt be able to 'waste' it for holidays

Graham_Devon

Carl31 wrote: »

thats part of the decision of having children though imo

if you cant go a few years without a holiday, then are children for you?

Imo, taking kids out of school for holidays is as bad as benefit fraud, school is paid for by the taxpayer, you shouldnt be able to 'waste' it for holidays

I wasn't meaning it as some sort of moan about the parents not going on holidays.

I meant it's about giving the kids holidays and that family time....it's the times kids (or at least I) remember most fondly.

Getting quite a lot of stick for this one

abaxas

Jimmy Saville?

ruggedtoast

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Obviously the opposite of generalis thread. We often look at what our kids have, but not at what they don't have.

So I'll start...What I had that my 3 year old doesn't (or won't have)

- A stay at home mum
- A garden that was actually big enough to learn to ride the bike in
- A large enough house from the start that was owned by parents even though only one wage was coming in.
- A greenhouse I could grow tomatoes in (I hated them though).
- Lego that was cheap enough to buy with pocket money.
- Computer games that came on cassette that were also cheap enough to buy with pocket money.
- Roundabouts in the park
- A playgroup that was simply that. Wasn't overseen by offsted and didn't include parents evenings...you just turned up if you needed to go in. Used to love that place.
- A playgroup in the supermarket (which supermarket offers this now?!)
- Freedom to roam seemingly anywhere I wanted to roam (probably helped by the lack of mobile phones!)
- The ice cream van doing it's rounds and the excitement when you heard it (they only seem to park up now?)

I also had quite a lot of stuff. Maybe not the same stuff as now. But I had stuff. A TV, a commodore, an Atari. My chopper bike was frankly awesome. As was the ability to ride it somewhere...more so when I got my dynamo rear light which you had to cycle at 45mph just to get it glowing.

Edit: Oh and holidays - we used to go on holiday, usually to relatives places or to a caravan, IN term time! I mean, the horror! But it was cheaper (read, therefore viable), and no one seemed to care. I remember those vividly. You can't do that anymore, hence man ykids simply don't get to go on holiday as their parents can't make use of the cheaper times.

Firkin' A, Devon. Firkin' bloody A.

You have hit the nail on the head there.

IveSeenTheLight

alinwales wrote: »

I'd have no problem taking my kids out of school for a week on holiday.. once they're old enough that is. Why don't I care?... because whilst we'll be having fun on holiday, as I care about my kids they'll also be educated but in a different way.

Can't they get this opportunity out of school term.
Best of both worlds

alinwales wrote: »

The 'no term time holidays' things is bit comparable to the 'must have 5 veg a day': it's not a rigid target,

It's a MINIMUM of 5 a day recommendation.
I've recently went through a Nutritional, Portion Control, Healthy Exercise with the SFA in the community and my recommended minimum quantity is 8 portions of fruit and vegetables per day.

Ok the target is not rigid per say, but if you want the best advice for looking after your body then you really should be aiming to meet that minimum recommendation.

Once you change your mindset, it's really easy to achieve.

Graham_Devon

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Can't they get this opportunity out of school term.

I fear the point is being missed here ISTL.

So lets just take Haven holidays as an example, in Wales., in October (term time) for 4 nights = £239.

Same place, same caravn, in Wales, in September (school holidays) for 4 nights = £719

This is why we used to go in term time (I guess!). If we didn't go in term time, we'd never have gone.