We've got paint bubbles

misgrace

Kuztardd,I know its slightly confusing for the diyer, but Handyman's advice is exactly the same as mine, so dont worry about anything, just follow what we say.:D

Sugar soap, is fantastic for washing down walls prior to painting, and now you have had this trouble, I would invest in some, it comes in either powder form, (which goes further) or liquid form.
The powder one is like soapowder, you just put some in a bowl, add warm water and your away.
This will remove any contamination that might be left on the walls, and its also ideal for washing dirty/old woodwork down, PVC frames, kitchen tiles etc, it cuts through grease and dirt, much better than all these products that are on the market.

The undercoat is what it says, undercoat, you will find it on the same shelves as the gloss and satinwood.
U/C is a flat finish, so there is no shinyness to it, with the oilbase, you need white spirit to thin it down, as your hands will be killing you if you use it straight from the can, as its not as easy to work with like emuslion.

after you have done your prep, washing down etc, then apply the undercoat, make sure you dont pick up the water based one by mistake lol.

Leave for a day or so, then give it a light rub down, then paint with your colour.

I would still slightly thin down your colour with water, as sometimes if you paint straight from the can, it can go on all gloopy and draggy, and after all your hard work, you want a really nice finish.

Just remember if it says on the tin, 'clean brushes with a suitable thinners, or something to that effect', then its oilbase, also it should say on the tin.
If the tin says,'clean brushes, rollers etc in warm soapy water, or again words to that effect', then its water based.

Hope this helps.:D

misgrace

Thanks Kuztarrd for the offer of the beers, I dont want to appear ungrateful or anything, but could you send me a crate of Voddie instead, I cant stand beer:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

misgrace

Sorry Kuz, perhaps I should have explained it better.

Yes you got the right stuff, and it is for wood and metal, and not really used for walls etc, but it does a multitude of jobs other than actually painting woodwork.

For example, if you have a nicotene ceiling, and you have put on 10 coats of white emulsion, the nicotene will bleed through, but, if you roll undercoat on it first (Oilbase), then do your normal emuslion, the nicotene wont bleed thru.

It can work as a sealer in some cases.

Right, I would suggest you take that small tin back, as you wont have enough, and buy a cheapo 2.5 ltr tin, thier own make will do, as long as its oilbase, if you want to buy dulux then you can do, but the cheapo one will still do the same job.

if you have never painted a wall with U/C or a ceiling, you will see its a lot more labouring than with emulsion, hence mix the white spirt, not too thin, as you dont want it running down the wall lol, but thin enough to make life easier for you, and still get the coverage.

The sugar soap should be enough, and dont forget what you dont use to clean the walls, use on pvc, woodwork, and you will see the dirt/grease come off, you dont need Cillit bang (awful stuff) when you have sugar soap around.

misgrace

Kuztardd wrote: »

i was going to get the homebase brand own stuff, but again they only had undercoat for wood and metal..

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That is what you want, undercoat is mainly used for wood and metal,not for walls, but its an old trick in the decorating trade, thats probably why the tabbard twits didnt know what you were on about.:D

Personally I would do the whole wall instead of bits and pieces.

So just buy the tin that says 'for wood and metal', which you can use if you have left on your woodwork, so it wont go to waste, but paint it on the wall, using a shorthaired roller sleeve, the type you get from any DIY store, as an example, there is a roller sleeve in the diy stores, that looks stripey,think its called a tiger stripe sleeve, or something like that.

that is the type of roller sleeve you need to use with the undercoat, plus it wont suck up as much of your paint, and you will be able to stretch it out a bit further.

handyman.

bet you misgrace doesnt have a song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGUFfa2iDHg

home_alone

If it is just the one wall I would say that either the base coat has been applied when the wall was still drying out, or they changed the base coat for another on that wall only, small bubbles would mean contamination of some sort maybe the paint used had gone past its sell by date or silk used, some people use all their old paint for times like this.

gary

misgrace

Kuztardd wrote: »

Finally we have got round to doing it.. and its drying.. it is looking good so far and most of all NO BUBBLES.

A HUGE thank you to the two of you. you have been great.

Finally, at last we have the wall back to normal. Beer and vodka (in internet form) are on their way to you!

A big huzzah to you both!!!!
:beer: :j :T

Cheers Kuz, starting on my second bottle of voddie.<smile>


How long has it been now since you did the wall?, am keeping my fingers crossed that it all pans out for you.

misgrace

handyman. wrote: »

bet you misgrace doesnt have a song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGUFfa2iDHg

LOL HM, I cant sing, but I can whistle Dixie standing on my head.<wink>

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