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House price correction - Taking the hard route

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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    TruckerT wrote: »
    the mechanisms which the banks were using to generate those increases?

    What, a structural supply shortage over decades combined with record population growth and an increase in single person households?

    Don't think you can really blame that on the banks....
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

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  • JencParker
    JencParker Posts: 983 Forumite
    What, a structural supply shortage over decades combined with record population growth and an increase in single person households?

    Don't think you can really blame that on the banks....

    You can certainly lay the blame for lending amounts due to increasing multiples of salary. When I first bought it was 2.5 times the main salary and that was it. Then it went to x3 salary, then x5 salary. The larger the amount the banks would loan, the faster and higher house prices rose.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    TruckerT wrote: »
    OK, I give in - what's your point?

    You like house price increases, but you don't like the mechanisms which the banks were using to generate those increases?

    TruckerT


    My point is a morality tale:

    I took out a self-certificated mortgage about 8 years ago which I needed in order to sort out my life. I gave a completely fictitious story about my income etc, and walked away with an offer.

    When I sold the house I was in negative equity.

    TruckerT
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    My point is a morality tale:

    It worked well - I sorted my life out, and the bank made its profit.

    What's the problem?

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • CLAPTON
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    TruckerT wrote: »
    It worked well - I sorted my life out, and the bank made its profit.

    What's the problem?

    TruckerT


    I would say the the taxpayer has sorted out your life and the morality tale still stands.




    I sold my property several years ago - I am happily living on pension credits and housing benefit. My landlady is a peach.


    I took out a self-certificated mortgage about 8 years ago which I needed in order to sort out my life. I gave a completely fictitious story about my income etc, and walked away with an offer.

    When I sold the house I was in negative equity.

    TruckerT

  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    I would say the the taxpayer has sorted out your life and the morality tale still stands.

    just like the banks then!

    I positioned myself to make maximum gain from the regulations in force at the time.

    I stole no money and broke no laws - what should I have done differently?

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    TruckerT wrote: »
    just like the banks then!

    I positioned myself to make maximum gain from the regulations in force at the time.

    I stole no money and broke no laws - what should I have done differently?

    TruckerT

    of course you didn't
    just like a banker

    I took out a self-certificated mortgage about 8 years ago which I needed in order to sort out my life. I gave a completely fictitious story about my income etc, and walked away with an offer.

    When I sold the house I was in negative equity.

    TruckerT



  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    of course you didn't - just like a banker

    Perzackly!!!

    Why are you so hung up about the negative equity issue? It wasn't my fault!

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    TruckerT wrote: »
    Perzackly!!!

    Why are you so hung up about the negative equity issue? It wasn't my fault!

    TruckerT


    I take it you repaid the negative equity shortfall when you say you repaid it in full"?
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

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  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    I take it you repaid the negative equity shortfall when you say you repaid it in full"?

    Yes, but, unlike the banks, I had included the possibility of a house-price collapse in my calculations.

    The lenders at the time seriously did not want to hear 'the truth' - they wanted the business. If they could have found a way to avoid asking about the borrower's creditworthiness, they would have taken it.

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
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