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Parking questions, Dropped Kerbs, can you answer/help?

whiterose_uk
whiterose_uk Posts: 2 Newbie
edited 10 June 2013 at 11:09AM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
Two different parking questions re: Dropped Kerb Parking.

Question 1: Is your car not allowed to park in front of the first sloping 'brick' or does the no parking only apply to the flat 'bricks' that are level with the road? This particular dropped kerb Im mentioning is to a shared driveway with no parking restrictions or markings. The dropped kerb starts halfway in front of drive, so the sloping brick that starts off a dropped kerb is in the middle of their drive. A car blocks this sloping brick slightly but the flat bricks are all clear, Is it allowed?
can your car front/back overhang, but your wheels must not cross it?

Question 2: Parking opposite a dropped kerb. I didn't think this was allowed? My street is narrow so much so there is no central white line markings. I have a dropped Kerb. The council kindly come and painted a disabled space around 12 months ago for a resident who lives in a flat opposite. All well and good but its directly opposite my drive which has a dropped kerb. It is difficult to get on/off the drive due to the narrow road, and is only possible because my drive is wide so I can slope off at an angle. I still only just miss the fence posts. Should they have put the space there in the first place? Wouldn't mind but they have their own car park at the back of the flat yet its not I use!! They all park on the narrow road making it difficult for everyone.

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  • tom999_2
    tom999_2 Posts: 15 Forumite
    Question 1: Is your car not allowed to park in front of the first sloping 'brick' or does the no parking only apply to the flat 'bricks' that are level with the road? This particular dropped kerb Im mentioning is to a shared driveway with no parking restrictions or markings. The dropped kerb starts halfway in front of drive, so the sloping brick that starts off a dropped kerb is in the middle of their drive. A car blocks this sloping brick slightly but the flat bricks are all clear, Is it allowed?
    can your car front/back overhang, but your wheels must not cross it?
    If driver A parks vehicle A to obstruct access to vehicle B's drive so driver B cannot get in/out then I believe it's driveway obstruction, and a Police matter.
    Question 2: Parking opposite a dropped kerb. I didn't think this was allowed? My street is narrow so much so there is no central white line markings. I have a dropped Kerb. The council kindly come and painted a disabled space around 12 months ago for a resident who lives in a flat opposite. All well and good but its directly opposite my drive which has a dropped kerb. It is difficult to get on/off the drive due to the narrow road, and is only possible because my drive is wide so I can slope off at an angle. I still only just miss the fence posts. Should they have put the space there in the first place? Wouldn't mind but they have their own car park at the back of the flat yet its not I use!! They all park on the narrow road making it difficult for everyone.
    I don't think this would be classed as driveway obstruction, but seems more like poor Council planning. I'd suggest contacting the Council to resolve the matter.
  • Coupon-mad
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    Two different parking questions re: Dropped Kerb Parking.

    Question 1: Is your car not allowed to park in front of the first sloping 'brick' or does the no parking only apply to the flat 'bricks' that are level with the road? This particular dropped kerb Im mentioning is to a shared driveway with no parking restrictions or markings. The dropped kerb starts halfway in front of drive, so the sloping brick that starts off a dropped kerb is in the middle of their drive. A car blocks this sloping brick slightly but the flat bricks are all clear, Is it allowed?
    can your car front/back overhang, but your wheels must not cross it?

    If it is a Council which is a London Borough or in a Special Enforcement Area where code 27 is a contravention, then a PCN should only be issued if the wheels are adjacent to the fully dropped flat kerb. The sloping bricks are not part of that.

    As for overhang, look at the CEO Handbook linked on the LondonCouncils website, near the end. There's a section on minimal situations where a PCN should not be issued. One of the examples is 'overhang' and it talks about a small car situation.

    In practice though it can be different and no car is safe from a PCN! There are London Boroughs where CEOs routinely give PCNs and even get cars towed away when no contravention is even occurring (overhang only). On pepipoo forum there are lots of appeal cases won on that basis. I am thinking of Barnet in particular where one CEO (same one) keeps on issuing PCNs and getting cars towed in the situation where their wheels are only beside the sloping brick. Extortion by a jobsworth idiot CEO.

    Also as tom999 says, the Police always have the option to issue FPNs for 'obstruction' (Councils cannot) so that can be a risk too.


    Question 2: Parking opposite a dropped kerb. I didn't think this was allowed?

    My street is narrow so much so there is no central white line markings. I have a dropped Kerb. The council kindly come and painted a disabled space around 12 months ago for a resident who lives in a flat opposite. All well and good but its directly opposite my drive which has a dropped kerb.

    It is difficult to get on/off the drive due to the narrow road, and is only possible because my drive is wide so I can slope off at an angle. I still only just miss the fence posts. Should they have put the space there in the first place? Wouldn't mind but they have their own car park at the back of the flat yet its not I use!! They all park on the narrow road making it difficult for everyone.

    Parking opposite a dropped kerb is allowed, as long as there is no corresponding dropped kerb where the car is parked of course. Sorry, sounds like bad planning by the Council lines & signs operatives for putting it there rather than further along.
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