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Sunday Times Article - India Knight

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From (yesterday's) Sunday Times:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/india_knight/article1845194.ece
Hell is buying a houseIndia Knight
I’ve never understood the point of giving, or leaving, one’s adult, able-bodied, intellectually capable children masses of money.

People in late middle age have hopefully earned their own living for several decades and don’t have the urgent need for an injection of cash that young people do.

My notion was that I would buy my children a small flat each when they became adults and that would be that - they could put their back-breakingly expensive education to use for the rest and be grateful.

This idea, always boldly optimistic given the chaotic state of my finances, now seems more hilariously improbable by the day: who on earth can afford to buy any kind of property in London? At the rate things are going, they’d be lucky to get a shed each - or, more realistically, their own shelf in a communal shed.

Last week Knight Frank, the chartered surveyor, said London house prices rose by more than 33% in the 12 months to the end of April - the fastest rate of growth since mid1979. A house worth £100,000 in 1976 would now be worth more than £4.1m.

Data from Knight Frank also revealed that the supply of available property fell by more than 50% in the first quarter of this year, while the number of prospective new purchasers increased by 17%.

What with super-rich foreign buyers and City bonuses, the property market has gone mad, madder even than it was in the 1980s, so mad that there’s nothing anyone can do about it except throw up their hands in despair and wait for the crash that’s been predicted for a couple of years now but shows no sign of arriving, even though Jon Hunt, the founder and owner of the aggressive estate agency chain Foxtons, sold out last week for an estimated £390m.

The Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development has warned that UK property prices are among the most stretched of any major world economy, and that the housing market in Britain is overvalued by up to 65%. Surely something’s got to give because how - and where - are people supposed to live?

You have vendors on the one hand, beside themselves with joy to discover that their unexceptional house in an unexceptional area is now worth a monstrous sum.

But this doesn’t mean anything in real, rather than paper, terms, because property prices rise commensurately across the board, and the numbers are now so elevated that they become meaningless - like hedge-fund managers’ bonuses, we’re talking what for most people is unimaginable, joke money.

If your family house is now worth £1m and you want to move to a better area and have a bit more space, your £1m is going to get you nowhere: unbelievably, if you head for the “desirable”, more family-friendly parts of London, your £1m becomes risible.

You could just about go and buy a big house in Hackney, but that’s probably not quite what most people have in mind. Which means that once you’ve finished congratulating yourself on your acumen in buying your house for a fraction of the amount it’s now worth, you have to borrow punitive amounts in order to move “up the ladder”. Which wasn’t part of the plan.

This situation makes vendors incredibly greedy and buyers desperate. My sister and her husband, who have a young family, are trying to move house.

I went to look at one with her the other week. It was perfect. She knew the market is such that there was no time to have a think about it in a considered manner. Stressed out already, she put in a cash, no-chain offer at the asking price. Nothing happened for a few days. Eventually the estate agent languidly got back to her to say the vendors had turned down her offer.

Why, she asked. “They’ve just turned you down,” the agent shrugged, without giving a reason. “They also turned down a higher offer than yours.” And you do ask yourself: “What’s up with these people? Do they want to vend or do they not?”

If they want to sell, they should sell. If they greedily want to put up the price, they should greedily put up the price. If they’ve changed their minds, they should say so. But no, the house is still on the market, still being viewed, and offers are presumably still being turned down.

I thought this was maybe a one-off bit of peculiar behaviour, but no, it’s happening all over London.

Another friend is in the process of buying a house at an incredibly overinflated comedy price given its grotty location. She’s spent thousands of pounds on surveys and so on.

Two months down the line, the vendor calls her and says he’s noticed that other houses in his street are selling for £30,000 more than his asking price, so if she still wants the house, it’s just got more expensive. And if she doesn’t, there are plenty who do so could she let him know in the next half an hour? It’s absolutely unbelievable - and really craven.

I know HIPs - the home information packs the government was supposed to introduce on June 1 - have been much derided and that they were poorly thought out in the first place.

For instance, the idea (now abandoned) of a vendor commissioning a survey on the house he wants to sell was flawed from the start. But at least an attempt was being made at imposing some sort of order on a system that is out of control and open to wild abuse.

Nothing is being done to help potential buyers or to protect them from vendors suddenly announcing that the selling price has just gone up by tens of thousands.

More to the point, if you do an honourable job that makes a significant contribution to society - if you’re a nurse or a teacher, for example - for which you are paid a disgraceful and nationally shaming pittance, there is no way you could afford to buy anything larger than a cupboard in London.

Possibly you could buy a minute bedsit above a crack den - if you are lucky. Ludicrously, you’d have to beat other potential buyers off with sticks: that’s how desperate people have become. It’s mad.

In the absence of the widely predicted crash, an urgent attempt needs to be made at regulating the market, because given the way things are going, only the undeserving, bloated super-rich will be able to live in a city that is, after all, everybody’s.

india.knight@sunday-times.co.uk

Whilst I empathise with India, and her children, do most people intend to buy a flat each for their two children? I don't think so!
Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it. - Jefferson

Comments

  • sanfrancisco
    sanfrancisco Posts: 645 Forumite
    High house prices are starting to effect people that matter, within the media and this is what will turn sentiment. All those 30 somethings who can't afford to live and start a family are becoming established in their careers, and starting to make an influence.
  • before_hollywood
    before_hollywood Posts: 20,686 Forumite
    if she wants to buy me a flat she can do, then i can put my local high school and local college education to use :D

    seriously though, prices have got insane, its only when people in the media can't get the chelsea des res they want that anyone is going to start taking any notice, the media is still full of the £300k for a second house brigade on nearly every night on channel 4, i'm actually looking forward to big brother to escape it all for 3 months :eek:

    maybe now we will see what its really like and all because media figures are having to go through it themselves, albeit in the london market.
    things arent the way they were before, you wouldnt even recognise me anymore- not that you knew me back then ;)
    BH is my best mate too, its ok :)

    I trust BH even if he's from Manchester.. ;)

    all your base are belong to us :eek:
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,562 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Academoney Grad Name Dropper
    Sunday Times had a whole article about HPI not being the problem. The problem is that people will be using their houses to be their pension and won't be passing on the value to the next generation. The next generation, having paid for their education and being priced out of the market see their parents generation having had it all, free education, HPI and they have no future. If the pensions hadn't gone so very wrong the wealth of HPI could be passed on but people now living longer and uses their home value as a pension leaves the next generation with nothing.

    Concluded that whereas the baby boomers stood on their own two feet, they could do so because they had a free education and low house prices, now that the next generation have neither, the baby boomers need to make provision for their children.
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
  • CB1979_2
    CB1979_2 Posts: 1,335 Forumite
    personally don't see the problem with it, as I & she says, why leave £500k between them if they are 60 year olds when hopefully they will have lived and earned on their own and don't need it.

    they need the help now (obviously i would say that they couldn't get a mortgage on it or sell it without my permission though! lol)

    I left uni with £13k worth of student loans (& luckily for me £40k of equity as I bought in Stoke rather than rented), had a 2.1 in Accounting & Business and the jobs I was getting offered £13-18k!

    bearing in mind I was 24 (I was a "mature student") had worked for 4 years previously in an office environment and had a decent degree, now living in Surrey it's quite difficult to own a place/rent on that kind of money, so in the end I went back to what I was doing before I went to uni (computer aided drafting) in order to be able to afford somewhere.

    now my parents are gonna be leaving about £500k-£1m (obviously depends on circumstances from now until then) hopefully when I'm well into my 60s. this money will more than likely get passed straight onto my kids.

    but even though it's not my right to any inheritance, I know my parents will be leaving it to me & my bro & sis, so would it be more beneficial to me now, of course as it's when I need it now to help me through rather than when I'm a pensioner!

    also my parents have giving us some cash before £10k each (that's what i used to buy my house in stoke) and my parents said they'd rather see us benefit from it now than when they're gone. In fact my nan did the same thing and gave each of us £500 each before she died in order to see us enjoy it with her.

    I'm not blaming my parents at all, but if they gave me the money now, then I could've persued the career of choice but alas it wasn't to be, I could've struggled but i chose my life not them.

    please note after reading this and re-typing it, i can't make it sound any better than me sounding like a money grabbing !!!!!!! lol I'm in no way suggesting anything of the sort, it's more about when a cash injection is better for you, not about IF inheritance is a god given right
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,562 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Academoney Grad Name Dropper
    please note after reading this and re-typing it, i can't make it sound any better than me sounding like a money grabbing !!!!!!! lol I'm in no way suggesting anything of the sort, it's more about when a cash injection is better for you, not about IF inheritance is a god given right

    Agree. but because people are living longer they are spending their money rather than passing ot on. Those born in the 60s or earlier are fine, they bought low and/ or had a free higher education, those younger can't afford their education and expensive houses and get no help from the older generation who "had it all" and a re now living off the proceeds. Because pensions got screwed, they are using their house value to live off.
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
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