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Parking Charge Notice from Total Security Partners

Hi All,

I'm looking for some advice regarding 'PCN's issued by Total Security Partners Ltd.
A bit of background: One day we turned up at the car park for the flat where my boyfriend used to live and some signs had miraculously appeared to advise that parking was now controlled and permits had to be displayed. A couple of days later some flimsy pieces of card turned up as a means of a 'parking permit'.

My boyfriend, his flatmate (who owns the flat) and myself all received 'Parking Charge Notices' on separate occasions for not correctly displaying a parking permit.
I have never received any follow up. The flatmate appealed and was rejected. My boyfriend, on the other hand, ignored the initial parking ticketm the follow up letter from TSP and has now received a letter from Graham White Solicitors requesting a total amount of £160 to be paid to Roxburghe Ltd. It says that if he doesn't pay they will take legal action to recover the costs (associated costs to be an extra £207). We called them and they confirmed that they are actually a debt collection agency.

Reading through the forums, I guess the advice would be to ignore them, but obviously the threat of a CCJ that could affect us getting a mortgage in the next couple of years, or failing credit checks to rent another place is intimidating... I can't see TSP listed on the thread with all the letter copies - what can we expect if we DO ignore the letter? I'm fully expecting them to chase up my parking ticket eventually and don't want to end up with a £600 bill purely for not noticing the crappy piece of card had slipped off the dash... :(
Do the so called 'debt collectors' have any right to fine us?

Thanks for any advice you can offer!

Comments

  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    This is a scam ! Ignore Roxburghe / Graham White, they are actually the same company. It will not go to court as this tin pot parking company never goes there. And you've made a mistake on the Graham White letter, its actually £207.25p exactly isn't it ?

    The reason I know is this is a well documented scam
    http://www.google.com/search?q=graham%20white%20%C2%A3207.25&newwindow=1

    So treat this with the contempt it deserves!
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,731 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 6 June 2013 at 10:39PM
    Yep you really did only have to Google ''Graham White £207.25'' to find 'your' letter being laughed at by people for many years!

    Why the heck you phoned them I have no idea. You phoned Roxburghe in fact. This same useless dodgy call centre posts the Roxburghe hysterically ridiculous 'debt chasing' letters and the pointless 'Graham White' headed notepaper too. Roxburghe is staffed by students and threatened by the OFT to have their licence revoked soon.

    I do hope you don't mean the person whose 'fake appeal' was rejected just paid the fake ticket?? Surely not, do they have no internet access then?

    :eek:

    ...and as well as reading all the links provided by Stroma, read this:

    http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=24362


    OK?
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • kodys_angel
    kodys_angel Posts: 60 Forumite
    Thanks! I did reply on these threads ages ago but it doesn't seem to have posted from my phone :/
    I guess I just wanted confirmation to put his mind at rest... I did tell him not to acknowledge the letters after researching on here but when the second one came threatening court action he wanted to be sure...
    I guess that's how these companies get people to pay!!
    Another has arrived offering a discounted settlement apparently. Nit sure, it went straight in the bin this time ;)
  • bazster
    bazster Posts: 7,436 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    1. Do you think they would still be offering discounts if they thought they could take him to court and win? Just sit it out and you will get a 100% discount.

    2. Right, so your boyfriend was living in a flat owned by his buddy. This is good! So, your boyfriend's mate has a leasehold, enshrined in which, somewhere, will be his and perhaps his visitors' right to use the parking. And what it will not specify is that there is any obligation to display a permit - and neither the management company nor the two-bit, half-wit parking company can vary the terms of his leasehold without his agreement.

    And your boyfriend would have had a tenancy agreement with his mate (either a written one or just something they discussed and agreed between them, either way it's an agreement), and I think we can be fairly sure that the mate didn't say "you can use the parking but you'll have to show a permit".

    Bottom line: these clowns don't have a leg to stand on.
    Je suis Charlie.
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