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Popla Annual Report

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  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    What a farcical report, there are so many problems I scarcely know where to begin, but basically they say this

    Equality Act - meaningless
    Own parking bay - meaningless
    HMRC v VCS - meaningless

    Suggestion that parking companies charges are legally binding
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • nigelbb
    nigelbb Posts: 3,819 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    It's not all bad as the following is a significant reminder to the more uncooperative PPCs that can be used in all appeals.
    If representations are made to the operator in respect of the parking charge
    notice and are accepted, then the parking charge notice will be cancelled.
    If the representations are not accepted the operator must send the rejection
    notice to the motorist with the reasons for the rejection. They should also include
    an appeal form, as well is the verification code, allowing the motorist to appeal to
    POPLA. In the case of online representations, the appeal form can be replaced
    by a link to the POPLA website but must always include the verification code.
    Operators should not need to be asked for this by the motorist.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    As I have been reminded of on pepipoo 'should' is not 'must'

    The whole thing is a joke though, parking eye almost 700k invoices issued , and about 100 popla appeals received. Yet others who are tiny in comparison have a lot more.

    I've criticised popla in the past, and I'm about to again. Only 1 incident of CoP breach in all the time in operation, what an utter joke.
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • nigelbb
    nigelbb Posts: 3,819 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Stroma wrote: »
    As I have been reminded of on pepipoo 'should' is not 'must'
    It does say that they must always include the verification code.
    Stroma wrote: »
    The whole thing is a joke though, parking eye almost 700k invoices issued , and about 100 popla appeals received. Yet others who are tiny in comparison have a lot more.

    It's not just numbers that should be considered but how many times POPLA rule against the PPC e.g.
    Liberty Printers (AR & RF Reddin) Ltd also T/A Liberty Services Ltd and Car Parking Partnership Ltd
    Appeals accepted 112 (92%)
    Appeals rejected 10 (8%)
  • kirkbyinfurnesslad_2
    kirkbyinfurnesslad_2 Posts: 2,340 Forumite
    edited 4 June 2013 at 4:51PM
    love this bit
    Websites often suggest a motorist put forward complicated and supposedly
    ‘legal’ reasons for an appeal, which may or may not have much relevance
    to the case, when a simple statement of the facts surrounding the vehicle’s
    presence or the issue of the parking charge notice may well form valid grounds
    of appeal. Experience from elsewhere shows that whilst those seeking to appeal
    can obviously get all the help they want from any source, motorists should be
    alert to the possibility of having their straightforward case effectively ‘hijacked’ by
    campaigners seeking to make their own political points.

    and
    Sitting in the statutory tribunals as I did for many years, I used to believe few
    people really set out deliberately to get a ticket just for the sake of it. Certainly
    nobody said that when they came to appeal. Most appellants believed that
    the parking ticket should not have been issued in the first place and that they
    had a very good reason why they should win their case. Whether this is wholly
    the position or not, certainly even whilst POPLA was being set up, we were being
    contacted by people who said that they were intending to get lots of tickets
    issued to their vehicles so as to “prove” the whole scheme was unworkable. That
    is as may be but each case which actually comes to appeal at POPLA will be
    carefully considered on its own facts.
    Proud to be a member of the Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Gang.:D:T
  • looking at the Appeals decision graph on page 31 it does look like the Popla appeal decisions has started to favour the PPCs since mid February. I guess they are covering more of the loopholes in the paperwork?
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    • Combined Parking Solutions Ltd t/as Combined Parking Solutions

    • Small Operators

    PMSL


    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 4 June 2013 at 6:08PM
    Just looking at one figure from that report - 75% of UKCPS appeals were allowed. This means that Haswell and his minions got it wrong for 75% of the time, Of course, you wouldn't expect anything else from them. How are they going to make a profit otherwise?
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • Computersaysno
    Computersaysno Posts: 1,243 Forumite
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    This is my favourite '!!!!!! are they on' moment....

    As for diversity, of the current four Assessors, two are women, one is from a BAME background and one identifies as LGBT, i.e. 50%, 25% and 25% respectively.
  • I had to google BAME background and I still don't know what it is lol
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