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Part-time workers - positive discrimination?

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  • SueC_2
    SueC_2 Posts: 1,674 Forumite
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    edited 3 June 2013 at 5:42PM
    Come the revolution "Fit, Healthy, Single, Childless and Willing to Work People" will be legally recognised as having protected characteristics under the Equality Act.

    Until then, they won't be able to take time off at short notice, will have lesser claim to leave at Christmas, Easter and during school holidays, and will be expected to work extra hours (at short or no notice) and take on additional workload to cover those who are able to do both of the above.

    They will also not be allowed random time off to attend nativity plays and easter parades (nieces, nephews and godchildren not counting as being worthy of such interest), and will receive lesser pension, private healthcare and death in service benefits.

    They will be expected to accept this willingly and in good spirits whilst listening in awe to how marvellous little Johnny's end of term play was, and sympathising wholeheartedly when regaled with a full technicolour description of the nature and frequency of his puke after he ate too much jelly.

    ;)
  • Goldiegirl
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    I'm a part time worker, and don't have kids, so the offer for my lieu time to be taken in the school holidays wouldn't be a big incentive for me personally.

    Unless full time workers are allowed to do their overtime on a time off in lieu basis and to take their time off in the school holidays, then it is blatantly unfair, and I think it should be challenged.
    Early retired - 18th December 2014
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  • mcfisco
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    SueC wrote: »
    Come the revolution "Fit, Healthy, Single, Childless and Willing to Work People" will be legally recognised as having protected characteristics under the Equality Act.

    Until then, they won't be able to take time off at short notice, will have lesser claim to leave at Christmas, Easter and during school holidays, and will be expected to work extra hours (at short or no notice) and take on additional workload to cover those who are able to do both of the above.

    They will also not be allowed random time off to attend nativity plays and easter parades (nieces, nephews and godchildren not counting as being worthy of such interest), and will receive lesser pension, private healthcare and death in service benefits.

    They will be expected to accept this willingly and in good spirits whilst listening in awe to how marvellous little Johnny's end of term play was, and sympathising wholeheartedly when regaled with a full technicolour description of the nature and frequency of his puke after he ate too much jelly.

    ;)

    For your sacrifice though, there'll be someone around to wipe your a**e for you when you're too old and decrepit to do it yourself :)
  • SueC_2
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    mcfisco wrote: »
    For your sacrifice though, there'll be someone around to wipe your a**e for you when you're too old and decrepit to do it yourself :)

    Who's that then?
  • Person_one
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    SueC wrote: »
    Come the revolution "Fit, Healthy, Single, Childless and Willing to Work People" will be legally recognised as having protected characteristics under the Equality Act.

    Until then, they won't be able to take time off at short notice, will have lesser claim to leave at Christmas, Easter and during school holidays, and will be expected to work extra hours (at short or no notice) and take on additional workload to cover those who are able to do both of the above.

    They will also not be allowed random time off to attend nativity plays and easter parades (nieces, nephews and godchildren not counting as being worthy of such interest), and will receive lesser pension, private healthcare and death in service benefits.

    They will be expected to accept this willingly and in good spirits whilst listening in awe to how marvellous little Johnny's end of term play was, and sympathising wholeheartedly when regaled with a full technicolour description of the nature and frequency of his puke after he ate too much jelly.

    ;)


    Yeah but, none of that would make it worth having children when you don't want them, would it?

    Being a parent has a hugely detrimental effect on a woman's career, in a way that no amount of TOIL can compensate for.
  • Person_one
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    SueC wrote: »
    Who's that then?

    Someone else's children, grown up and working in your nursing home. ;)

    We do need the species to continue after all!
  • davenport151
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    edited 3 June 2013 at 7:01PM
    SueC wrote: »
    Come the revolution "Fit, Healthy, Single, Childless and Willing to Work People" will be legally recognised as having protected characteristics under the Equality Act.

    Until then, they won't be able to take time off at short notice, will have lesser claim to leave at Christmas, Easter and during school holidays, and will be expected to work extra hours (at short or no notice) and take on additional workload to cover those who are able to do both of the above.

    They will also not be allowed random time off to attend nativity plays and easter parades (nieces, nephews and godchildren not counting as being worthy of such interest), and will receive lesser pension, private healthcare and death in service benefits.

    They will be expected to accept this willingly and in good spirits whilst listening in awe to how marvellous little Johnny's end of term play was, and sympathising wholeheartedly when regaled with a full technicolour description of the nature and frequency of his puke after he ate too much jelly.

    ;)

    Part timers can also be 'fit,healthy and willing to work'. Work at short notice to cover colleagues that are off sick. Pack more into a day of work than the average full timer. Will fit appointments into out of work hours. Plus a regular additional workload. Well thats my experience where I work anyway.

    Plus surley the reasoning behind this is its easier to fill in for a part timer than a full time worker.
    wouldn't you rather have the time off when the kids are in school anyway? You certainly pay a premium for going on holiday in those summer weeks?
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  • Person_one
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    wouldn't you rather have the time off when the kids are in school anyway? You certainly pay a premium for going on holiday in those summer weeks?


    I'm single and childfree, but most of my friends and my mum all work in schools, they're the people I'd want to go on holiday with!

    You can't just assume that having no children means you're completely flexible and have no other commitments or responsibilities.
  • SueC_2
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    wouldn't you rather have the time off when the kids are in school anyway? You certainly pay a premium for going on holiday in those summer weeks?

    Oh of course, childless folk should also be happy to holiday when the weather is rubbish too.

    Yes, I know the weather is pretty rubbish all year round, but the chance of a bit of sunshine is far higher in June, July and August than it is in May and September.
  • mcfisco
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    SueC wrote: »
    Oh of course, childless folk should also be happy to holiday when the weather is rubbish too.

    Yes, I know the weather is pretty rubbish all year round, but the chance of a bit of sunshine is far higher in June, July and August than it is in May and September.

    June and most of July aren't usually school holidays for most
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