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Lidl Parking Fine

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  • Coupon-mad
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    towton2 wrote: »
    Seeing as I detest hassle and was guilty for staying half an hour over the allowed limit I paid the £45 charge to Athena ANPR. I was rather more peturbed to read the wording of their receipt;'Thankyou for your purchase'.
    While I generally concur with advice to ignore the 'fine' I do recollect one case where a driver was taken to court by the parking company and ended up with a bill for £thousands.
    I know it is highly unlikely to escalate to this level but at least now I can forget about my mistake.


    Did you not realise that clueless idiots who pay can still appeal and then get a refund from the scammers at POPLA? POPLA says so.

    Or maybe your post has a hidden agenda, eh, 'Tow Tony'?
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  • prosnap
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    towton2 wrote: »
    Seeing as I detest hassle and was guilty for staying half an hour over the allowed limit I paid the £45 charge to Athena ANPR.



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    Tickets: 19 [cancelled: 18, paid: 0, pending: 1]
    PPC Appeals: 8 [accepted: 2, rejected: 5, pending: 1]
    POPLA: 4 [accepted: 4, rejected: 0, pending: 0]
  • I was just looking on here for advice as my husband got a parking ticket. I think people that keep saying have a go at the lidl managers are out of order. It had nothing to do with the managers of the stores, I know this for a fact as my husband is a manager in a store and has got 2 tickets himself & is trying to sort them. So do you think if the managers have had probld they would be able to sort it for themselves and not just customers!!!!
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 20 June 2013 at 11:56PM
    Clprzy87 wrote: »
    I was just looking on here for advice as my husband got a parking ticket. I think people that keep saying have a go at the lidl managers are out of order. It had nothing to do with the managers of the stores, I know this for a fact as my husband is a manager in a store and has got 2 tickets himself & is trying to sort them. So do you think if the managers have had probld they would be able to sort it for themselves and not just customers!!!!




    Lidl appoint parking companies as their agents. If Lidl are stupid enough not to tell their hapless Store Managers that these can be overturned then that is Lidl's fault and customer service goes out of the window. They deserve the criticism, just like Aldi are getting on their facebook page right now in another thread.

    Of course there's a clause in a parking firm contract with any Supermarket that the client (Lidl, Tesco, Asda, Aldi or whoever) CAN get fake PCNs cancelled. It's not the 'tail that wags the dog' for gawd's sake, the PPC scammer is the agent of the Supermarket not the other way round!

    Also why the heck is your OH 'trying to sort' his fake PCNs? All he has to do is one challenge to the scammers and then a strong challenge to POPLA (with our help on a new thread please). Simple, he wins at the scammers expense and then afterwards, he can take it up with his line Management or Head Office, to demand to know why they are not told that the Store CAN cancel these fake fines. Obviously there has to be that possibility available so that customers who complain can be given proper service rather than being fobbed off by the store.
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  • I am not saying lidl is not to blame I am saying it has nothing to do with the store manager and the people shouldn't have a go at the store managers but go to head office. My oh has had to go through his work to try sort it there is nothing he xan personally do himself for customers. So why have a go at the store managers they didn't give out the fines!!!
  • Umkomaas
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    Clprzy87 wrote: »
    I am not saying lidl is not to blame I am saying it has nothing to do with the store manager and the people shouldn't have a go at the store managers but go to head office. My oh has had to go through his work to try sort it there is nothing he xan personally do himself for customers. So why have a go at the store managers they didn't give out the fines!!!

    I'm sorry your OH is getting stick from customers, but, like it or not, he is the customer-facing representative of Lidl and as the manager he is paid to handle customer complaints.

    If only Head Office can cancel tickets, then why has he not already been raising this issue on the part of his customers who have already been scammed and have complained?

    Who has better access to and influence at HO - the customer or the company's Store Manager?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • geno101
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    My wife received one of these Athena "Civil Parking Charge" invoices yesterday, BTW, smashing photos of her car, actually my granddaughter was using the car and overstayed on Lidl High Wycombe. I've no intention of paying anything but did write immediately to the Lidl UK, Managing Director telling him that I, and all of my family, will boycott Lidl stores in future. Athena even have the cheek to ask for the drivers named and address if the registered owner wasn't driving. The worrying thing about this is private individuals having access to all of our personal details from the DVLA, any organisation is only as secure as the people they employ.
  • spacey2012
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    edited 9 July 2013 at 9:18AM
    If you are really Peeved off why not join my little fight, here is all you have to do:
    Write to the responsible councils planning office, every private land car park requires planning permission.
    Request the copy of the planning consent outline, if they refuse complain as it is a public document, eventually they will cough it up.
    If this stipulates the planning application was for "free parking for use of customers visiting the premises" which is the normal wording.
    Then collect some parking Charge notices.
    Then contact the Council revenue protection businesses rates team.
    Request the rateable value and status of the car park.

    Then make 1 official complaint to the council that they are allowing the avoidance of rates by allowing exemption from the rateable value normally paid by charging car parks by breaking planning consent.
    Write to the local paper and E-mail local councillors demanding a reason why they are allowing the avoidance of much needed income pointing out the charging system in place with these parking charge notices, include some estimates of incomes from parking charge notices.
    Point out these are not legal fines, legal penalties issued under legislation of government act but the invoices of a private parking company.
    Then when they try to ignore you as money talks, send a complaint to the Local Government Ombudsman scheme quoting alleged mis practice and complicity in business rates avoidance and planning regulation offences.
    Sit back and wait for the Parking company to vanish over night along with all its signs.

    A businesses car park charging for parking on a profitable basis are required to pay a rateable value per m2 of charging space.
    Free car parks are exempt, hence why they are so many free car parks in the UK.
    Yet if they want to issue charges after claiming rateable exemption, someone is breaking the law and those in authority turning a blind eye are complicit.
    Drag them from the darkness in to the light and turn over the stones and watch them squirm.

    This is now my chosen way of fighting these crooks, someone needs to put the fire out, wipe out the nest where these pests are coming from, cut off the flow of endless tickets.

    I am not alone, the campaign is picking up speed, PPC have vanished, the First success was a car Park in a northern town called Castleford infested by a a nasty lying cheating PPC, they have gone, the landowner is having rates back charged for 3 years.

    Get writing to the council and put these ******** out of business once and for all.
    Those that want them infesting their car parks scamming and protection racketing customers, make them pay their rates for a charging car park.


    It can be done, those who truly hate these crooks. Put them to the sword.
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  • Guys_Dad
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    geno101 wrote: »
    My wife received one of these Athena "Civil Parking Charge" invoices yesterday, BTW, smashing photos of her car, actually my granddaughter was using the car and overstayed on Lidl High Wycombe. I've no intention of paying anything but did write immediately to the Lidl UK, Managing Director telling him that I, and all of my family, will boycott Lidl stores in future. Athena even have the cheek to ask for the drivers named and address if the registered owner wasn't driving. The worrying thing about this is private individuals having access to all of our personal details from the DVLA, any organisation is only as secure as the people they employ.

    If you want any advice, then you need to start a new thread.

    However, you did the right thing by contacting Lidl.

    The PPC were given the legal right to ask the Registered Keeper who was driving and, if the RK refuses to do that, to pursue the RK for the charges.

    Now, these charges are ludicrous, and you can bang on about the DVLA and privacy etc, but if you want help in getting the monkeys off your back, stick to that and open your own thread and help will be forthcoming.
  • I recently received a parking charge notice demanding £70 from the parking Eye group for parking in the Sunderland Royal Hospital car park..
    The notice showed two photographs of my car entering and exiting the car park with times displayed along with photographs of my registration plate.
    This notice arrived seven days after I had used the car park which in normal circumstances would have meant that the pay and display parking tickets that I did purchase would no longer be in my possession. Fortunately they had fallen down the side of my passenger seat and I was able to retrieve them. I sent in the appeals letter with photocopies of the parking tickets which clearly show a keyed in registration and the times of purchase. Subsequently I received a second letter from parking eye group stating that the incorrect vehicle registration was input into the parking ticket machine but as a gesture of goodwill they would cancel this parking charge. I had retained the original parking tickets (3 in total) which clearly sure the correct registration had been keyed in.
    This would appear to be some kind of scam operated by parking eye as I would imagine that the majority of the population would not keep pay and display parking tickets and therefore would not be able to prove that tickets were purchased if cash was used.
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