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Selling Property With Sitting Tenants with NO Tenancy Agreement! HELP

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  • monty-doggy
    monty-doggy Posts: 2,134 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker I've been Money Tipped!
    I agree with the above! I wouldn't be bribing, they have acted appallingly and you don't deserve to be treated so badly! It's your bloody house!

    I would be throwing everything I could at them including changing the locks!
  • DRP
    DRP Posts: 4,287 Forumite
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    japmis wrote: »
    Just a thought...... what's to stop you changing the locks?

    the existing tenancy.

    i.e. it would be illegal
  • monty-doggy
    monty-doggy Posts: 2,134 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker I've been Money Tipped!
    But if there is no tenancy how is it illegal?
  • DRP
    DRP Posts: 4,287 Forumite
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    But if there is no tenancy how is it illegal?

    they are paying rent, so they are tenants - written contract or no written contract.
  • monty-doggy
    monty-doggy Posts: 2,134 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker I've been Money Tipped!
    So back to the original answer, would issuing them eviction notice work?
  • DRP
    DRP Posts: 4,287 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    So back to the original answer, would issuing them eviction notice work?


    As far as i know it shouldn't be a problem if done correctly:
    Werdnal wrote: »
    Issue a Section 21 notice - search the forum for info on how to do it correctly as it comes up almost daily.

    After 2 months, you will be able to apply for court possession order to evict them.

    //snip!

    Although it would be time-consuming. The bribe option may be better:
  • jamie11
    jamie11 Posts: 4,436 Forumite
    japmis wrote: »
    Just a thought...... what's to stop you changing the locks?
    I agree with the above! I wouldn't be bribing, they have acted appallingly and you don't deserve to be treated so badly! It's your bloody house!

    I would be throwing everything I could at them including changing the locks!

    Calm down and think. Doing the above would be likely to see you charged with illegal eviction, so don't.

    Issue a S21 as advised, that must include two complete tenancy periods, since you're probably not sure of the periods (unless you have them written down) then your S21(4)(a) should span all the possible dates to ensure they have had their two months notice. (so make it cover three months and use a saving clause as well)

    Is there a deposit and has it been protected and prescribed information issued. You can only issue a S21 if all this has been done. Depending on your answer to that we may have to tell you some other home truths.
  • deary65
    deary65 Posts: 818 Forumite
    Landlord tenant law can be a minefield. The very first thing you have to do is establish when the tenancy began, if you cannot do that, then you need some serious legal advice.
    Any posts by myself are my opinion ONLY. They should never be taken as correct or factual without confirmation from a legal professional. All information is given without prejudice or liability.
  • 19lottie82
    19lottie82 Posts: 6,031 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    I agree with the above! I wouldn't be bribing, they have acted appallingly and you don't deserve to be treated so badly! It's your bloody house!

    It depends how quickly you want your house back tho, doesn't it?

    The OP's choices here are either

    A) Issued a section 21, then wait two months, apply for a court date (this could be another month or so), HOPEFULLY then he will be awarded possession (BUT if the S21 is not 100% correct then his case will be thrown out and the whole process will have to start again), if so he will need to book and pay for court appointed bailiffs to evict the tennants.

    OR

    B) Offer them a bung, payable on them vacating the property within a timeframe of his choice.

    I know what I'd choose.
  • BitterAndTwisted
    BitterAndTwisted Posts: 22,492 Forumite
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    Superbiker wrote: »
    The reason they wont sign it is because it cant extend a 12month agreement period and then It gives me a legal way of giving them notice?

    What do you mean by this? Are you saying that at some point there was a 12 month rental-agreement?
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