Low User New Deal?

Nada666

MillicentBystander wrote: »

And 12000 kwh gas is not in any way low consumption for a single dweller who actually turns the boiler off in the Summer

I didn't notice that! I automatically read it as 1,200 kWh.

(Actually, I assume it must be just a typo as the sums do not work at all for Ebico with a consumption of 12K.)

Wywth

Ken68 wrote: »

Ebico will always be the cheapest when you are a low user, the biggest saving being when you switch off the b oiler for the summer, and the saving on standing charge.
Without really trying my electric is about 1400kwh p.a. and gas is 12000 kwh. (solo living).
Even where the supposed saving is £60 a year from a comparison site a manual re-calculation will show Ebico as lowest.

Do you really mean 12000kWh per year for gas, or did you mean 1200kWh?

Even so, you could save money on your electricity opting for Flow (which is a fixed priced tariff - see todays MSE news that prices are only going one way) or nPower offer a range of tariffs that could save you money if you agree to pay by DD (either monthly or quarterly)

Both Flow and nPower have standing charges, but you'd still end up saving

MillicentBystander

But doesn't the price you see for npower on the switching sites include the £105 annual discount paid in arrears/an additional exit fee by another name? Talking of exit fees, Flow has a £30 per fuel exit fee if you decide to leave before Sep 2014. Both these suggestions effectively tie you in whereas UW and Ebico don't. Decisions decisions.....

Ken68

If Ebico are the cheapest STeve, why the hesitation.?
I like the Ebico ethos, largely instrumental in getting Ofgem to simplify the billing system. Would feel guilty now leaving them.

Nada666

Ken68 wrote: »

If Ebico are the cheapest STeve, why the hesitation.?
I like the Ebico ethos, largely instrumental in getting Ofgem to simplify the billing system. Would feel guilty now leaving them.

Eh? Ofgem are doing nothing to simplify billing and they are certainly doing absolutely nothing to benefit users with low consumption.

Ken68

Nada666 wrote: »

Eh? Ofgem are doing nothing to simplify billing and they are certainly doing absolutely nothing to benefit users with low consumption.

Havn't they just got rid of the tier system. Lots of threads.
Making it easier us old and frail folk to calculate the cheapest. And havn't Ofgem brought in regulation so that customers are informed of the cheapest tariff. Lots more probably.

STEVE7_2

Perelandra wrote: »

Just a quick check-

I see you say that you're a low user- do you have months in the year when you have zero consumption (for example, because your boiler is switched off and you use elec for your cooker?). If so, make sure when you enter the details on the price comparison sites that you use your current consumption and not spend. f you enter your spend level, the comparisons can miscalculate your consumption, and therefore mis-calculate what your new bills will be.

If you have already entered consumption, please ignore this.




NB: I work for British Gas. Anything I post is my own view, and does not necessarily represent those of my employer.

It's never switched off i am just a low user, i have put in my Consumption thanks for your help

STEVE7_2

Ken68 wrote: »

If Ebico are the cheapest STeve, why the hesitation.?
I like the Ebico ethos, largely instrumental in getting Ofgem to simplify the billing system. Would feel guilty now leaving them.

I am going to go with Ebico just sorting it at the minute , thanks to everyone for your help

Wywth

MillicentBystander wrote: »

But doesn't the price you see for npower on the switching sites include the £105 annual discount paid in arrears/an additional exit fee by another name? Talking of exit fees, Flow has a £30 per fuel exit fee if you decide to leave before Sep 2014. Both these suggestions effectively tie you in whereas UW and Ebico don't. Decisions decisions.....

Yes, the nPower figures do include the DD discount, but I think it's only £42 (as I was only talking about moving electricity - I never checked the gas because of the uncertainty of the gas annual usage figure. 1200kWh is remarkably low usage - my pilot light probably consumes that, and 12000kWh would certainly thow up a cheaper supplier than Ebico.). But still you will miss out if you leave mid year.

And yes Flow does have an early exit fee, but it's a fixed tariff until the early exit fee expires.

Did you see the MSE news item: Energy prices: 'The only way is up'

Nada666

Ken68 wrote: »

Havn't they just got rid of the tier system. Lots of threads.
Making it easier us old and frail folk to calculate the cheapest. And havn't Ofgem brought in regulation so that customers are informed of the cheapest tariff. Lots more probably.

Yes, two-tier tariffs are being deprecated. That does not make it any easier to calculate the cheapest or compare tariffs. Absolute nonsense. If your comment is genuine then that is terrifying - you do not really think it will be any easier, do you? Those who can not handle two-tier tariffs can not handle the new (proposed) regime.

And, no, suppliers will not need to inform customers of the cheapest tariff in any useful sense.

It is bills that throw some people, not two-tier tariffs. Abolishing two-tier tariffs does nothing to simplify bills.