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Where did Whit Monday bank holiday go?

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Wasn't sure where to put this then saw holidays so here goes. Last Sunday 19th May was whit Sunday now to me Whit Monday comes the day after but no we are now having a Spring bank holiday tomorrow and the children are off this week surely it should of been last week. Why are all these holidays being messed about with? So do we no longer have a Whit Monday and who makes these decisions to change the calendar?

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  • notanewuser
    notanewuser Posts: 8,499 Forumite
    edited 26 May 2013 at 6:07PM
    oliveoil99 wrote: »
    Wasn't sure where to put this then saw holidays so here goes. Last Sunday 19th May was whit Sunday now to me Whit Monday comes the day after but no we are now having a Spring bank holiday tomorrow and the children are off this week surely it should of been last week. Why are all these holidays being messed about with? So do we no longer have a Whit Monday and who makes these decisions to change the calendar?

    I'm sure the bank holidays are always the first and last Mondays in May. With Easter bouncing around all over the place it's the only way, surely
    Not been the way you remember it since 1971!!! Isn't 40+ years enough to get used to it?!

    http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/uk/whit-monday

    "Whit Monday used to be a bank holiday in the United Kingdom. However, the Banking and Financial Dealings Act 1971, moved this bank holiday to the last Monday in May, following a trial period of this arrangement from 1965 to 1970. Whit Monday follows from Whit Sunday, also known as Whitsunday, Pentecost or Pentecost Sunday, which is a popular time for baptisms among some Christian churches."
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  • oliveoil99
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    I'm sure the bank holidays are always the first and last Mondays in May. With Easter bouncing around all over the place it's the only way, surely
    Not been the way you remember it since 1971!!! Isn't 40+ years enough to get used to it?!

    http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/uk/whit-monday

    "Whit Monday used to be a bank holiday in the United Kingdom. However, the Banking and Financial Dealings Act 1971, moved this bank holiday to the last Monday in May, following a trial period of this arrangement from 1965 to 1970. Whit Monday follows from Whit Sunday, also known as Whitsunday, Pentecost or Pentecost Sunday, which is a popular time for baptisms among some Christian churches."
    Thank-you for the information, I don't understand why you had to resort to rudeness.
  • notanewuser
    notanewuser Posts: 8,499 Forumite
    oliveoil99 wrote: »
    Thank-you for the information, I don't understand why you had to resort to rudeness.

    I didn't!!
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  • Frogletina
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    I didn't!!



    I think saying 'Not been the way you remember it since 1971!!! Isn't 40+ years enough to get used to it?!' might have been interpreted that way, notanewuser
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  • Lincoln_Imp
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    As long as i can remember the bank hols have always been the first and last monday in the month
    This might help
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitsun
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  • margaretclare
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    oliveoil99 wrote: »
    Wasn't sure where to put this then saw holidays so here goes. Last Sunday 19th May was whit Sunday now to me Whit Monday comes the day after but no we are now having a Spring bank holiday tomorrow and the children are off this week surely it should of been last week. Why are all these holidays being messed about with? So do we no longer have a Whit Monday and who makes these decisions to change the calendar?

    They've been 'messed about with' for donkey's years. Not sure when. There was a decision that there had to be a May Day bank holiday like socialist countries, the workers' day when they paraded all their heavy armaments through Red Square, but for us it had to be on the nearest Monday. Then Whit Monday was disregarded - after all, we were meant to be multi-cultural/multi-religion, weren't we, and the Monday closest to Pentecost had been Whit Monday for generations - but no longer. It had to be a 'late spring bank holiday' and that's what we've got now.

    No idea of the reasoning behind all this, who decided, what it was all about. Maybe it went something like: 'many people no longer go to church so they don't know when Pentecost is but let's give them a day off work anyway'. I dunno! But certainly, been like that for a good few years now.
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  • notanewuser
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    They've been 'messed about with' for donkey's years. Not sure when. There was a decision that there had to be a May Day bank holiday like socialist countries, the workers' day when they paraded all their heavy armaments through Red Square, but for us it had to be on the nearest Monday. Then Whit Monday was disregarded - after all, we were meant to be multi-cultural/multi-religion, weren't we, and the Monday closest to Pentecost had been Whit Monday for generations - but no longer. It had to be a 'late spring bank holiday' and that's what we've got now.

    No idea of the reasoning behind all this, who decided, what it was all about. Maybe it went something like: 'many people no longer go to church so they don't know when Pentecost is but let's give them a day off work anyway'. I dunno! But certainly, been like that for a good few years now.

    Given the time that the trial of the arrangements happened, and how much of our country's arrangements are still goverened by the church regardless of the demographic, I doubt very much it was anything to do with religion. Business-wise it doesn't make sense to have bank holidays so close together. Perhaps the late bank holiday was to tie in with school holidays?
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  • mumps
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    Given the time that the trial of the arrangements happened, and how much of our country's arrangements are still goverened by the church regardless of the demographic, I doubt very much it was anything to do with religion. Business-wise it doesn't make sense to have bank holidays so close together. Perhaps the late bank holiday was to tie in with school holidays?

    Easter and the two May holidays are too close together. Depending on dates of Easter it is only few weeks between them and then 3 or 4 weeks to the late May holiday. We then go to the end of August without another one then another four months till Christmas then wait.............. a whole week till New Year. Madness. Mind you for lots of jobs it isn't relevant now anyway.
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  • nearlyrich
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    If the bank holidays were the only days off we got then I can see the point mumps is making fortunately we also get personal leave to take when we want ( provided the business is covered) I am taking an extra day tomorrow so I don't have that Sunday night feeling right now:beer: I can remember having Whit week and September holidays at primary school ( in the 60's) ....
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  • mumps
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    nearlyrich wrote: »
    If the bank holidays were the only days off we got then I can see the point mumps is making fortunately we also get personal leave to take when we want ( provided the business is covered) I am taking an extra day tomorrow so I don't have that Sunday night feeling right now:beer: I can remember having Whit week and September holidays at primary school ( in the 60's) ....

    I wasn't just looking at it from employee's point of view. If you have to do rotas for jobs that carry on regardless of public holidays it is a nightmare as lots of people are begging for holidays, having child care issues, public transport issues etc. I have just come to the end of the "spring run" and am looking forward to the nightmare with bells on that is Christmas/New Year.
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