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Is this calculation right?

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  • meer53
    meer53 Posts: 10,217 Forumite
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    willber wrote: »
    They don't. The £60,000 is gross which would give a net monthly salary of approx £3500 a month. Less the cost of the second car including petrol, servicing and finance would cost £800 a month. That leaves approx £2700 a month clear.

    Current benefits pay £2712 a month clear.

    So effectively I would have to earn well over £60,000 to make it really worthwhile working.

    At a salary of £100,000pa that would give me approx £5400 a month, less the car costs would leave me with £1888 a month better off for working 37.5 hours a week!! That works out at approx £12 an hour.

    You know, i read some of the posts on here from people who genuinely cannot work, and are at their wits end struggling to get the benefits they need to live. Then you come along with your smug attitude to claiming benefits, admitting that claiming benefits was a lifestyle choice you made. You have more or less admitted that you play the benefits system to your advantage. I find this really offensive, benefits are for people who really need help, not people who are able to work but decide not to. Your attitude stinks.
  • Bogof_Babe
    Bogof_Babe Posts: 10,803 Forumite
    Braggers like Willber should be aware that what they post on a public forum can and will find its way onto the desks of some very senior MPs, and will no doubt be taken into consideration for future benefit changes. They do themselves no favours with this constant boastfulness. Smugness is not only ugly, but in this case pretty damn stupid and pathetic.

    Interesting that he is so disabled that he qualifies for shedloads of disability benefits, yet could walk into any one of 39 high paid jobs tomorrow. Hmmm.... <rolleyes>

    Unless, of course, he is really Stephen Hawking!
    :D I haven't bogged off yet, and I ain't no babe :D

  • princessdon
    princessdon Posts: 6,902 Forumite
    willber wrote: »
    They don't. The £60,000 is gross which would give a net monthly salary of approx £3500 a month. Less the cost of the second car including petrol, servicing and finance would cost £800 a month. That leaves approx £2700 a month clear.

    Current benefits pay £2712 a month clear.

    So effectively I would have to earn well over £60,000 to make it really worthwhile working.

    At a salary of £100,000pa that would give me approx £5400 a month, less the car costs would leave me with £1888 a month better off for working 37.5 hours a week!! That works out at approx £12 an hour.

    So what benefits are they?
  • meer53
    meer53 Posts: 10,217 Forumite
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    willber wrote: »
    Hang on, everybody has choices in life. It all depends on what choice they make.

    I will not apologise for studying the legal aspects of the Welfare system for hours on end in order that I have enough knowledge to make various claims for financial reward.

    If you don't like what the system allows everybody (not just me) to do, then you are quite entitled to complain - not to me or about me but to those that make the rules. All I do is follow what the lawmakers and court judgements allow me to do.

    I'm not being smug - I am being very honest (more so than a lot of people on this site) and explaining why working would give me no financial advantage over claiming welfare payments.

    If the system is that broken that it needs a radical overhaul, those in Whitehall and the House of Commons are the ones to do it.

    Is it so wrong to use the law as it stands to enhance my financial position? If so, then let us have a complete overhaul of not only the Welfare system, but also the Tax syatem, both direct and indirect taxes. Maybe that would upset far too many in this country that see it as their right to avoid any type of tax by using the law. Cameron and Osbourne would lose millions each if the avoidance legislation was completely outlawed.

    The system is broken because of people like you. You are abusing a system that was put into place to protect the vulnerable, not provide a life of leisure for selfish people like you.

    I don't know whether you have children, if you do, what an appalling example of a parent you are.
  • Bogof_Babe
    Bogof_Babe Posts: 10,803 Forumite
    So what benefits are they?

    I fear you are flogging the proverbial dead horse. :silenced:

    Anyway, for some of us real life is too short to sit around all day working out how to scrounge every last penny, so I'm off to enjoy a lovely walk in the rain! :rotfl:
    :D I haven't bogged off yet, and I ain't no babe :D

  • princessdon
    princessdon Posts: 6,902 Forumite
    Bogof_Babe wrote: »
    I fear you are flogging the proverbial dead horse. :silenced:

    Anyway, for some of us real life is too short to sit around all day working out how to scrounge every last penny, so I'm off to enjoy a lovely walk in the rain! :rotfl:

    I've worked out they are Andy, but one thing is usually true which is that the level of benefits are available, which saddens me. It's like the mother who was jailed this week, £10K a month!!! It's not right that these situations can even exist.

    Anyway rain has stopped here so off out too - enjoy your bank holiday :)
  • Poppie68
    Poppie68 Posts: 4,881 Forumite
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    meer53 wrote: »
    The system is broken because of people like you. You are abusing a system that was put into place to protect the vulnerable, not provide a life of leisure for selfish people like you.

    I don't know whether you have children, if you do, what an appalling example of a parent you are.


    According to willber/Andy/bigboybrother...the children are quite benefit savvy as well.
  • cbrown372
    cbrown372 Posts: 1,513 Forumite
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    willber wrote: »
    Yes you are. I have no intention in posting on a public forum exactly what we get, from whom and why. All it will end up with are further posts of disgust and dismay from those on here that see welfare claimants as being lower than the dog s**t that gathers on your shoes. I'm certainly not going to provide the bullets for others to fire at me.
    Suffice it to say that I would have to earn £60,000 a year to match what we receive from the state in terms of benefits, allowances and other sundry payments allied to those with a record of sickness/disability.

    And we too are off next week to the Forest of Dean with our caravan for a mini holiday courtesy of the CSMA with members discount and the added advantages of being disabled.
    http://www.csmaclubretreats.co.uk/holidayparks/whitemead/index.php

    I do hope you have free wifi there so you can set up the next AE Andy and that there is room in this lovely, well equipped caravan for all your previous AE's :D
    Its not that we have more patience as we grow older, its just that we're too tired to care about all the pointless drama ;)
  • Neelienew
    Neelienew Posts: 201 Forumite
    Poppie68 wrote: »
    According to willber/Andy/bigboybrother...the children are quite benefit savvy as well.

    Two daughters, both benefit cheats by his own admission.
  • clemmatis
    clemmatis Posts: 3,168 Forumite
    cbrown372 wrote: »
    I do hope you have free wifi there so you can set up the next AE Andy and that there is room in this lovely, well equipped caravan for all your previous AE's :D

    I like the sound of that caravan :) -- pity it doesn't exist, any more than his two daughters do (I hope; I hope, for their sake).
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