P45 vs P60

I recently stopped working for an employer at the end of the tax year and was issued with my P45, which I passed to new employer. Old employer says they have no need to issue P60 for end of year? I realise it is exactly the same as information on P45 I have but should I still be entitled to a P60?
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  • Any
    Any Posts: 7,957 Forumite
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    Which employer were you working for on the 5th April 2013?
    That is the one that should give you P60....
  • comeandgo
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    It used to be that every employer you worked for during a tax year issued a P60 for all employees but now the employer only has to issue P60's to the people still in their employment at the tax year end so no, your old employer will not give you a P60 as he does not have one to give.
  • Two4Tuesday
    Two4Tuesday Posts: 639 Forumite
    Since at least 2001 when I did payroll for my own company, we issued P14s to the Tax office for all employees that had worked for us during the tax year, but we only issued the P60 to employees still in our employ on 5th April.

    The P45 is issued when you leave employment.
  • In previous years P60 has been issued with info to 31 March, common practice and accepted by HMRC even though 5th April actual tax year date. I ended employment on 31st March and started on 1st April. New employer will only issue 2013/14 P60. Question is. Is former employer obliged to issue P60 or is it as they say and P45 should be enough? Thanks again
  • comeandgo
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    No former employer will not issue P60's
  • Savvy_Sue
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    P45 should be enough. You were not working for them at the end of the tax year, so no P60 is needed.
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    Savvy_Sue wrote: »
    P45 should be enough. You were not working for them at the end of the tax year, so no P60 is needed.
    Also new employer wouldn't need to issue a P60 for 12-13 tax year unless they paid you in that tax year.
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  • WestonDave
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    Most payroll software won't issue a P60 if the leaving date is pre 5th April so you wouldn't get one if payroll is automated. P45 prior to 5/4 knocks you off the system.
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  • LittleVoice
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    In previous years P60 has been issued with info to 31 March, common practice and accepted by HMRC even though 5th April actual tax year date. I ended employment on 31st March and started on 1st April. New employer will only issue 2013/14 P60. Question is. Is former employer obliged to issue P60 or is it as they say and P45 should be enough? Thanks again

    What, HMRC accepted that P60s for people with a weekly pay day between 1 and 5 April don't include any payment made in April at the end of the tax year? I don't think so.

    You recognise that the new employer is correct not to issue you with a P60 if they didn't pay you until 2013/14. As you were not employed by your previous employer on 5 April, they are correct that they do not have to issue a P60.
  • agrinnall
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    What, HMRC accepted that P60s for people with a weekly pay day between 1 and 5 April don't include any payment made in April at the end of the tax year? I don't think so.

    Where has anybody said that? You appear to have answered a question that was never asked.
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