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Being realistic?

Hello!
I'm going to be graduating this year, predicted a 2:1 : Zoology
I'm currently starting to look at jobs, whilst i have found several suitable roles for my skills/experience im not sure what kind of a wage i should be looking or aiming for.
Ideally i would like either a role in a laboratory or a role working with children/adults that helps them develop skills or supports them if they have mental/physical difficulties.
I have relevant paid and voluntary experience and course modules that fit with both roles.
Personally i was thinking about aiming for a wage at a minimum of 17k per year, is that too low or high?

How do other people 'value' their skills/qualifications?
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  • Takeaway_Addict
    Takeaway_Addict Posts: 6,538 Forumite
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    aim high and then work your way down.
    Don't trust a forum for advice. Get proper paid advice. Any advice given should always be checked
  • BugglyB
    BugglyB Posts: 1,067 Forumite
    SmallL wrote: »
    Hello!
    I'm going to be graduating this year, predicted a 2:1 : Zoology
    I'm currently starting to look at jobs, whilst i have found several suitable roles for my skills/experience im not sure what kind of a wage i should be looking or aiming for.
    Ideally i would like either a role in a laboratory or a role working with children/adults that helps them develop skills or supports them if they have mental/physical difficulties.
    I have relevant paid and voluntary experience and course modules that fit with both roles.
    Personally i was thinking about aiming for a wage at a minimum of 17k per year, is that too low or high?

    How do other people 'value' their skills/qualifications?

    Without knowing where you are in the country it's hard to say.

    At your stage of your career I would urge you more to consider the following:

    - does the organisational culture fit with your own values
    - do you fit with the other staff there
    - is there scope for training and development/progression
    - does the company have a good repuation

    Be wary of taking a job on salary alone!

    Also to consider is travel time, non waged benefits like holiday time and sick pay, working pattern (including any shift work).

    I would rather work for £14k for the right job in the right company, than £17k in the wrong job in the wrong company.
  • suburbanwifey
    suburbanwifey Posts: 1,642 Forumite
    SmallL wrote: »
    Hello!
    I'm going to be graduating this year, predicted a 2:1 : Zoology
    I'm currently starting to look at jobs, whilst i have found several suitable roles for my skills/experience im not sure what kind of a wage i should be looking or aiming for.
    Ideally i would like either a role in a laboratory or a role working with children/adults that helps them develop skills or supports them if they have mental/physical difficulties.
    I have relevant paid and voluntary experience and course modules that fit with both roles.
    Personally i was thinking about aiming for a wage at a minimum of 17k per year, is that too low or high?

    How do other people 'value' their skills/qualifications?

    I have a friend who recently graduated with a 2.1 in Zoology and they found it impossible to get a job, never mind one paying above minimum wage at 17K. Sadly, most places he applied he was told it was a pretty worthless degree, but no idea if that is true or not. I do know that he now works at a minimum wage job and according to him it was a wasted degree and debt. Good Luck out there, its a tough job market and so many have degrees.
  • BugglyB
    BugglyB Posts: 1,067 Forumite
    I have a friend who recently graduated with a 2.1 in Zoology and they found it impossible to get a job, never mind one paying above minimum wage at 17K. Sadly, most places he applied he was told it was a pretty worthless degree, but no idea if that is true or not. I do know that he now works at a minimum wage job and according to him it was a wasted degree and debt. Good Luck out there, its a tough job market and so many have degrees.

    Meanwhile I have a friend who did zoology who now manages a reptile house at a zoo. It all depends on the individual.
  • Fluff15
    Fluff15 Posts: 1,440 Forumite
    I have a friend who recently graduated with a 2.1 in Zoology and they found it impossible to get a job, never mind one paying above minimum wage at 17K. Sadly, most places he applied he was told it was a pretty worthless degree, but no idea if that is true or not. I do know that he now works at a minimum wage job and according to him it was a wasted degree and debt. Good Luck out there, its a tough job market and so many have degrees.

    I don't think your degree subject will affect how well you can find a job, as long as you can show you have picked up the right skills and experience and can apply them in the workplace. After all, I work for a construction firm as a project manager/administrator, and I did fashion journalism and Spanish at university! My starting salary was £18k and I've just had a payrise and promotion, so my degree subject isn't holding me back as I'm applying it to other areas.

    If you live near London and it's surrounding counties, I would expect a first wage to range from £15-£18k. But don't let a poorer salary turn you off a job, as it might have better prospects than a job that is higher paid, but that's as far as you'll go within the company.
  • dawyldthing
    dawyldthing Posts: 3,438 Forumite
    Sounds like you want to be a support worker. I think theres still quite a few jobs in this area in most areas and isn't too bad. I've been doing it for nearly 2 years. For the skills parts you might want to work in a day centre environment or something. But my boss doesn't get 17k, I think he is on 16k and he has a high work load. It does depend who you work for, but some do pay a bit more than others
    SmallL wrote: »
    Hello!
    I'm going to be graduating this year, predicted a 2:1 : Zoology
    I'm currently starting to look at jobs, whilst i have found several suitable roles for my skills/experience im not sure what kind of a wage i should be looking or aiming for.
    Ideally i would like either a role in a laboratory or a role working with children/adults that helps them develop skills or supports them if they have mental/physical difficulties.
    I have relevant paid and voluntary experience and course modules that fit with both roles.
    Personally i was thinking about aiming for a wage at a minimum of 17k per year, is that too low or high?

    How do other people 'value' their skills/qualifications?
    :T:T :beer: :beer::beer::beer: to the lil one :) :beer::beer::beer:
  • SueC_2
    SueC_2 Posts: 1,673 Forumite
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    edited 20 May 2013 at 9:09AM
    Being realistic?

    Aim for what you like, but at the end of the day it's a buyer's market out there at the moment, and employers will pay what they want to pay, not what you think you're worth.

    There are a zillion unemployed graduates out there, thinking they can dictate terms because they have a degree. But it just ain't like that now.

    First things first - aim for getting a job. Anything more than that will be a bonus.

    Sorry, but that's the harsh reality of the recruitment business at the moment.
  • SmallL
    SmallL Posts: 944 Forumite
    SueC wrote: »
    Being realistic?

    Aim for what you like, but at the end of the day it's a buyer's market out there at the moment, and employers will pay what they want to pay, not what you think you're worth.

    First things first - aim for getting a job. Anything more than that will be a bonus.

    Sorry, but that's the harsh reality of the recruitment business at the moment.

    Iv been looking at laboratory jobs for example, for qualifications that i have they vary wildly in pay between 12-19k thats why im asking!
    Im definately leaning towards the laboratory/science route although i have a massive advantage in the direction of learning and children with difficulties on the other hand.
    I feel with skills covering such a broad range of prospective jobs, i can be 'choosy' and im not going to settle for something that only advertises as 'GCSE's required' for 12k a year.

    And im south yorkshire and looking for employment in that area.
  • SueC_2
    SueC_2 Posts: 1,673 Forumite
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    SmallL wrote: »
    Iv been looking at laboratory jobs for example, for qualifications that i have they vary wildly in pay between 12-19k thats why im asking!
    Im definately leaning towards the laboratory/science route although i have a massive advantage in the direction of learning and children with difficulties on the other hand.
    I feel with skills covering such a broad range of prospective jobs, i can be 'choosy' and im not going to settle for something that only advertises as 'GCSE's required' for 12k a year.

    And im south yorkshire and looking for employment in that area.

    Fair enough. Good luck, and I hope it all turns out to plan.
  • agrinnall
    agrinnall Posts: 23,344 Forumite
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    SmallL wrote: »
    Iv been looking at laboratory jobs for example, for qualifications that i have they vary wildly in pay between 12-19k thats why im asking!
    Im definately leaning towards the laboratory/science route although i have a massive advantage in the direction of learning and children with difficulties on the other hand.
    I feel with skills covering such a broad range of prospective jobs, i can be 'choosy' and im not going to settle for something that only advertises as 'GCSE's required' for 12k a year.

    And im south yorkshire and looking for employment in that area.

    Are we missing something? I can see how zoology may be useful in getting a lab position, but what is the "massive advantage" that you have in learning and children with difficulties? If it's through a previous career in that area then surely you have a reasonable idea of what the jobs and salaries are.
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